Some of the people I've encountered over the past few weeks feel like such relics. I don't mean that they seem old or out of touch, but their politics seem to have ceased moving around 2009. It's the feel good liberalism without specific policy goals. It's so empty that I have to wonder what sort of lives they've had to be so just...liberal.

Like a lot of us were galvanized by the 2008 economic crisis, or perhaps we were part of anti-war movements, or labor movements or maybe we slammed head first into realizing just how anti-LGBTQ everything is.

But for some of the folk I've encountered, you'd think the primary three problems of the world are Russia, China, and liberals being uncomfortable online.

As someone from the global south we post a lot of cringe too lol

Annoying internet arguments aside, the people on the ground in the core also face the most expansive and advanced police state mankind has created yet. This makes doing anything close to truly subversive impossible without extreme precautions. Some Ferguson organizers dying (being murdered imo) comes to mind.

Please do not draw conclusions from how people post on a niche internet forum.

Please never go on South African twitter or Facebook if you think the stuff you've seen on Lemmy is bad and gives you no hope. There are plenty of dumbasses in the global south/third world

I don't want the West to be saved

Yeah sometimes I'll see you guys engage with one of these people politely and informatively and they just go "UGH, can we defederate from Hexbear please? This brigading, trolling and propaganda is annoying.😤💅"

But I've also seen a couple come to us because "I wanted to see what you were about and you weren't as bad as people were saying."

"The West"

"The far far East"

I was extremely polite in that lemm.ee thread, admitted we could stand to tone it down a bit, even called out a rude post from one of our own, and I only got hostility from them in response. There's literally nothing we can do to not be called wreckers

Eh, I heard someone who visited Cuba being told that the US has a lot of revolutionary potential by Cuban communists so

Those people don't really believe in anything, when the US states department dumps Ukraine and moves on to other imperial projects they'll shift their whole "belief system" right along with it

In a years time you'll see these very same people begin concern trolling about the bad behavior of Ukrainian refugees, they'll start using words like "ungrateful", "authoritarian" and "mentally colonized by ruzzia"

But you're right there is no hope in the north until climate change begins wrecking property values in significant numbers

The industrial and revolutionary fulcrum of the world lies in the global south

You're not wrong but I'm surprised it was an online forum thing that made you realize this

It hurts me a billion times more hearing absurd anti-communist and reactionary statements irl