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[-] YEAHBUDDY@hexbear.net 51 points 6 months ago

Im glad people are calling out drake for being a sexual predator but I dont trust all the rappers he be beefing with. Like some of them are doing it just for clout and are using it as a chance to get back at drake for personal reasons and would have never spoke up about drake dating teenagers if drake hadnt become persona non grata in the last few days. Its like harvey weinstein. People in hollywood knew for years there was rumors people spoke up and lost their jobs but it wasnt until he was done thats when everyone came out with shit on him. Like everyone who knew he was a predator before this and worked with him then and became angry at him not for the predator shit needs to go too!

[-] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago

Yeah Rick Ross has beef with Drake but dude had a line about slipping molly in a woman's champagne lol. And yeah it doesn't seem like Kendrick was the one who spearheaded this - it was Metro Boomin and Future, and Future is a piece of shit deadbeat, but Kendrick doesn't seem to care too much about that.

[-] dannoffs@hexbear.net 49 points 6 months ago

Counter point, the Drake-Kendrick beef will be forgotten in like two months and nothing major will change because of it.

[-] CrackBurger@hexbear.net 25 points 6 months ago

Yeah but it’s pretty good slop

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago

It's really good quality spectacle and I'm here for it.

[-] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 22 points 6 months ago

Some of the best lines I've heard in years is coming out of this feud. Of course, almost all of it is coming from Kendrick's side, but still, you need two to tango.

[-] Mindfury@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago

even Bret Hart wrestled jobbers from time to time

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 33 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

IDK, this guy is kinda reaching. I could see where he's coming from if he was saying this beef and the things Kendrick is talking about reflect larger societal issues, but how could they possibly be shaping them? Pop culture, and all of the superstructure, arise out of the material base but has extremely little power to do anything except reinforce it. That's why Kendrick and other conscious artists limit the scope of their message to a very specific part of the struggle, which elements of the ruling class are already ready to recuperate and make concessions in (more Black billionaires! (which is not what Kendrick is asking for but it's definitely the safe, capitalist response to this tide of conscious hip hop (and it's what other artists like Jay Z put forward as their solution) and even the most radical artists don't want to bite the hand that feeds them)). Even then, I don't want to be too cynical as to obscure what some smaller rappers out there are doing, others like Noname have put forward a more materialist criticism and have been outspoken about genocide and imperialism. How much of a difference does that make? Probably quite a lot, I'm sure many of the people in campus protests right now can attribute part of their political development to pop culture. But is it the actual, deciding factor for the movement and progression of history? marx-goth

Ultimately the amount of change these artists can enact is limited due to their positions relying on capital; streaming platforms and record companies aren't gonna keep Fred Hampton on board for too long if that's really bringing about political action that threatens their bottom line.

[-] ped_xing@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago

Normani

Did you mean Noname?

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago
[-] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Of course pop culture doesn't change anything. After Weinstein got arrested we never got many updates about whether similar abuses have seized, and I assume not because nothing systemic was changed. Epstein dies, Maxwell goes to prison, nothing changes. Drake has an absurdly large contract with many brands - it's unlikely to do anything unless Kendrick has some scathing, undeniable evidence that compels the police to go after Drake - but I doubt that would happen because it might self-incriminate Kendrick for various reasons, and doing it "officially" (i.e. working directly with the cops) is career suicide for Kendrick, so he basically only has vague jabs and perhaps inadmissible exposes

I'm sure many of the people in campus protests right now can attribute part of their political development to pop culture.

I would not trust many people who can be swayed by products lol

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Tired of hearing vout this and not actually hearing the songs, I went to look up Kendrick Lamar expecting to hate it because I'm old and all rap sounds like shit to me these days.

And... This kinda hits. This Lamar kid's got somethin.

[-] FungiDebord@hexbear.net 45 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

the most critically acclaimed rapper of his generation has something

amazing

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

The most critically acclaimed rapper of a wack generation

[-] Rx_Hawk@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago

Just because “mainstream” rap isn’t good doesn’t mean people haven’t constantly been releasing quality stuff.

Also, Kendrick is pushing 40 and has been putting out music for 2 decades, so he’s not exactly a part of the younger generation of rappers.

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

That's certainly in his favor. I called him kid because he's about 10 years younger than me and I was being cute

[-] FungiDebord@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago

i can't tell the difference between a guy self-consciously doing conscious jazz rap, who deliberately positions himself as stylistic through-line to the 90s and puts himself in literal conversation with hiphop greats, and his "wack" contemporaries

why pretend to be an old head -- you can just say you've never, once, listened to hip hop lol

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago

I like what I've heard of Lamar so far. I like that stuff that sets him apart. It's many of his contemporaries I don't like.

[-] Yeat@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

i mean he’s been mainstream for 14 years now i think we’re well into a new generation after his

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[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago

Which one did you hear? Not Like Us is a pretty standard trap beat with some more lyrical complexity than usual, but it's really nothing out of left field musically. It sounds like a pretty average trap song. The other 2 are a little more involved, but again nothing too crazy since these songs were made on a tight schedule. If this is really your first introduction to Kendrick I highly recommend you do yourself a favor and listen to To Pimp a Butterfly.

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago

I may have already heard To Pimp a Butterfly? Not sure. But I will.

But the fact that these were in a subgenre I usually hate is what surprised me here.

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago

IMO trap music is always unfairly maligned in mainstream discussions outside of the hip hop sphere (i.e. in predominantly white spaces). It's a broad genre, there's some low brow trap music, then there's your Earl Sweatshirts, Jpegmafias, Uzis, etc. who take the genre and do some very interesting things with it. Kendrick has been known to freely take a lot of influence from different subgenres and he definitely also shows that the attitude that a lot of people, especially oldheads, took toward "mumble rap," was super shortsighted. It's like dismissing randomness in video games because slot machines exist.

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[-] FungiDebord@hexbear.net 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

tiktoks should be banned so we can be free of the moronic editing technique of separately splicing together every single clause a presenter speaks.

[-] buh@hexbear.net 22 points 6 months ago

are you talking about jump cuts, because that's been a problem in youtube videos since the early 10s, and it was way worse then (it might even still be worse now)

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 27 points 6 months ago

Nah, not jump cuts, look at how the video cuts in the middle of the sentence which leads to a pretty jarring viewing experience if you're not used to it. He sometimes cuts 2 or 3 times in just one sentence, super disorienting.

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[-] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago

You think the Bay gon' let you disrespect ‘Pac, n*

I think that Oakland show gon' be your last stop, n*

lathe-of-heaven

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago

I used to just hate Drake cause I'm Canadian. Now I kinda like Kendrick Lamar for owning a dude so hard I has to see what the fuss was about. Now I have other reasons, as stenchcore scum who pays little attention to mainstream music, Kendrick goty clicks and I told co-workers about it. He was like if you made Narduar really mad at you.

[-] Mindfury@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago

mfw Nardwuar is the mole/Kendrick's investigator quagsire-pog

[-] Smeagolicious@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago

ITT: hexbear being extremely anti-cracker-aktion lmao

[-] ta00000@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago

I feel like if you're writing mean songs about how much you hate someone you've already lost. Why doesn't the diss-ee simply make a wojak-nooo meme of them and be done?

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 28 points 6 months ago
[-] ta00000@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago

It doesn't work if you don't walk away after that, then you become the wojak-nooo

[-] Spike@hexbear.net 25 points 6 months ago

Rappers sending each other PPB over and over

[-] Torenico@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago

I don't know who these people are

[-] whatup@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago
[-] FungiDebord@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago

uh, more like zoomers not following unc beef.

[-] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago
[-] FungiDebord@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago

sure, but it's not because he's a boomer

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago

Do you legitimately not know the Hotline Bling guy?

[-] Torenico@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

The what now?

No like seriously, I know Drake is some sort of rapper or whatever I don't know, the other guy I heard of him once. It must be because these people don't really reach Argentina at all lol. I'm being 200% honest.

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago

That's fair enough, but I'm not American either and Drake is very frequently on the radio here (also a Spanish speaking place). I'm surprised there's anywhere in the world where the people who are online enough to be here haven't heard Hotline Bling.

[-] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago

Then be very surprised because that song isn't really popular everywhere

[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 9 points 6 months ago

You didn't watch Degrassi!??!

/s neither did I

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago
[-] IAmHisBiggestSpoon@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

FD Signifier talked about this way more in depth on his Drake hate video from a couple years ago. He talks about the branch Drake came from and how Drake is the inevitable conclusion once capitalist forces began working their way into hip hop. It's a really good video for anyone interested in the topic/has 3 hours to kill.

[-] fubarx@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 months ago
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