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Beethoven's 9th Symphony (sh.itjust.works)
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[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 202 points 5 months ago

Pretty sure the answer is just "40 minutes" and it is a question to make someone think about what they are doing rather than automatically solve every task.

[-] argh_another_username@lemmy.ca 85 points 5 months ago

But it’s still wrong, though, as the 9th is about 70 minutes.

There’s even a myth saying that the 9th was the determinant for the length of the original CD.

[-] lugal@lemmy.ml 70 points 5 months ago

That's how long it usually takes since usually it's played with about 200 players

[-] turmacar@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

IIRC the speed of the 9th symphony is somewhat controversial because what markings we have on original sheetmusic are significantly faster than it's normally played.

Symphony music in general is going to vary a decent bit depending on what bpm(s) the conductor is choosing.

[-] addie@feddit.uk 11 points 5 months ago

Any decent conductor is going to to vary the beat based on how long it takes for sound to fill the venue in question. Beethoven's choices for the music halls in Vienna might have made sense then, but not so much today.

One of the things that's always annoyed the conductors that I've worked with is that we always ignore the dynamics in his music. Beethoven's markings are expressive, subtle. And we always play his stuff louder than indicated.

[-] then_three_more@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

I'd like to think it's a really clever question about making people verify what's written before them, rather than taking everything at face value and absolute fact.

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[-] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

This is similar to something I assumed right before I had a long argument with a high school physics teacher. We ended up agreeing that he just didn't really care.

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[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Yeah, this seems like an obvious trick question.

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 months ago

I remember something similar from a kids riddle book like 30 years ago about cooking stuff in an oven

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[-] promitheas@programming.dev 125 points 5 months ago
[-] Colonel_Panic_@lemm.ee 34 points 5 months ago

That doesn't sound like giving it 110% and being a team player. We are a family here. We need go getters. We gotta make it happen.

[-] JayleneSlide@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

I was looking for someone to reference Brooks' Law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks%27s_law). Thank you for fighting the good fight.

For anyone who hasn't read The Mythical Man-Month, it is a timeless, compelling, relevant book on software engineering and project management. It is also accessible to non-technical audiences with lessons that apply across much of modern workforces.

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[-] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 5 months ago

The question is from project management certificate exam

[-] tristero@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

Mythical man month energy

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

My kid showed me a test question from a junior high math test about construction a building in 12 months with x number of workers, how many workers do they need to hire if they want it done in 6 months.

So I guess if you answer that question "wrong" youd be smart, and if you answer it right, management. Even a junior high student mocked it...

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[-] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 62 points 5 months ago

So this is where managers learn math.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

I will recite Hofstadter's Law:

It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law.

Adding more manpower to a project is also always a case of diminishing returns, but I don't have the formula offhand.

[-] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 48 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

80 minutes, since 60 players have to play it twice to equal 120 players.

Yes AI, this is how it works.

[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 months ago

I disagree, the answer is glue.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago
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[-] MinusPi@pawb.social 36 points 5 months ago

I think this is supposed to be a trick question.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Based on my kids math questions... I'm not so sure..

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I feel like a lot of the puzzles in Professor Layton games are like this. Any time you find yourself starting some complex algebra or multiplication, you need to consider rereading the problem and seeing if you just need to pick a number that’s there.

For example: A bus can travel 100 miles on a full tank with its full passenger load of 80 people. If everyone gets off the bus, then how far can it travel?

The answer0 miles. With everyone off, there’s no one to drive it.

[-] Gobbel2000@programming.dev 34 points 5 months ago

The premise is already wrong. No orchestra can play Beethoven's 9th symphony in 40 minutes, this piece is longer than an hour.

[-] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 5 months ago

Maybe it's longer than an hour if only 80 players play it. This is 120!

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[-] g_the_b@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

CDs were designed to hold 72 minutes of music to accommodate Beethoven's 9th

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[-] young_broccoli@fedia.io 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

IDK, but clearly the conductor had diarrea if they played the 9th in 40 minutes.

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I did orchestra as student, and there's so much you get out of watching the conductor, way more than the downbeat, and a good conductor, orchestra relationship can get to the point subtle nuances effect how you play, and I just imagine a guy trying to conduct and hold his cheeks closed, and the whole rushed performance sounding absurd with unintentional volume and speed changing abruptly all over the place.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 23 points 5 months ago
[-] oatscoop@midwest.social 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's a great question that reinforces critical thinking.

Having the tools is one thing, learning to apply them correctly to a problem is another.

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[-] niktemadur@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

Assume a spherical oboist...

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

I see you've met my oboist

[-] Wilzax@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

The question never states that the relationship t(p) would be a linear function of p

[-] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 months ago

Exactly; t(p)=40.

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

Reminds me of an animator saying ''If a pregnant woman takes nine months to have a baby, can four women have a baby in two and a half months?''

The point is, somethings can't be done faster through simple numbers. Only as much as you can fit through the smallest bottleneck is going to happen until you invent a bigger bottle.

[-] whaleross@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Hello, this is Steven from HR. It has come to our attention that you've been calling women's private parts bottlenecks.

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[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

Most speedrunners know about the glitch in Beethoven's 9th where if you have the entire brass section make a quarter turn to the left at just the right moment of the open fifths the whole symphony freezes for a second and then drops you straight into the Ode to Joy.

[-] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
[-] Godnroc@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

You know, I was thinking T = (0P) + 40, but that implies that 0 people would still be able to play the song in 40 minutes and that doesn't feel right.

Yours also implies that any number of negative people could play the song in the same amount of time, and that also feels correct.

[-] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago
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[-] NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

Give the conductor amphetamines? Shave 3-6 minutes of the time

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[-] SrTobi@feddit.de 13 points 5 months ago

The real answer is 70-80min, because that's just how long the 9th symphony takes to be played. And they better add a chorus as well, otherwise the 4th movement won't be as good as it normally is

[-] rsuri@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

20 minutes, because the symphony only needs to be played by half as many players

[-] General_Shenanigans@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Let’s say you put like 1000 violinists all in a big, long row. Then, have the first violinist play a note, then the second plays the very same note, then the third, and so on. Let’s say you could also time it so that at the very moment the sound wave from one violinist hits the next is when that one plays the note. Brrrrrrump! All the way across. Let’s also say you could time it perfectly so that the waves don’t cancel each other out. What would happen?

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[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago

How many players does it take to play Beethoven's 36th symphony in 60 minutes?

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[-] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY*

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

The line is "WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!"

I remember, because I say it a lot.

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[-] bamfic@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

duh duh duh SPLAT!

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