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For international flights, US citizens can opt out but foreign nationals have to participate in face scanning, with some exceptions.

Stupid privacy people. What's the worst that could happen? A fascist coming into power next year who could misuse the data?

I'm going to assume they can photgraph you the moment you walk into the airport.

I used to be extra during the TSA body scan BS. And honestly, I felt like they won.

I’m okay with the TSA scan (pre-check) since.. you know.. they already have you if you took a picture for your ID.

Those “clear” people however. Who TF thinks it’s a good idea to hand your biometric info to a corp?

Brit here. About eight years ago I flew from London to Belfast and return for business. We don't need a passport to travel to Northern Ireland, just photo id like driving licence is fine.

Coming back to London I approached the gate and before I could pull out my wallet to show my id, the guard says " Good evening Mr. Codandchips have a safe journey "....

Yes they have facial recognition, the cameras are visible but you don't notice them.

For international flights, US citizens can opt out but foreign nationals have to participate in face scanning, [with some exceptions]

I had no idea we were already at that point.

always wanted to visit the US. I guess that won't happen then.

I refuse to participate in this dystopia. But I'm a little worried this will make me a recluse

Opt out. If we don't exercise our rights, we lose them.

"What if they retaliate and make life difficult for me? "

That's both illegal and against policy. If someone delays your right to travel for this specific reason, delay their job by asking for their supervisor and their name and employee number. Then file a complaint. That will dissuade that public servant (and their leadership) from exhibiting such behavior and encouraging it respectively.

"But they are capturing your image in 10 skillion other public locations."

1. Sure, and you have the option to create your own privacy in public.
2. Further, what's the real purpose of the scanner at the TSA check if they already have that detailed image of your retina, your facial pore patterns and whatever the fsck else they store? They don't have that level of detail yet on CCTV.

If you don't care, then that's fine. Some people don't mind the slow encroachments on 4th Amendment protections. Cool. Others do. Cool also. That's why we can opt out.

I figure that by being in the airport there's enough footage of my face from security cameras that I didn't consent to (other than by being in public) that the scan of my face while boarding is moot.

Opting out of this face scan in particular is like using Chrome to browse the web, but searching with DuckDuckGo "for privacy reasons"

If you already have a passport and opt out of facial recognition, you're only deluding yourself into a false sense of privacy. In fact, if you enter the screening area at all in an airport, you are kidding yourself if you think you can maintain some semblance of privacy. The government knows what you look like. Calm down and move on with your life.

I did this during an international trip last year coming back into the country. The guy mostly seemed confused and kind of suspicious, but it was nbd.

They will potentially take you out of line to a side room to hand you off to someone else. It seemed to be an area where they deal with any oddball kind of things. There was a lady ahead of me who was more raucus and upset about some issue with her ID. The guy who checked mine mainly seemed kind of bemused, like it was unusual.

Be prepared for "We have the biometric data from your photo already, why do you care?"

You're not obligated to give them a super detailed justification. Just remain polite and unconfrontational, and explain that you prefer not use the system as long as the right remains afforded to you to opt out.

(Note, this right only extends to US citizens)

"Normies" avoiding scanning their face is useless because the vast majority of them still use Instagram and other social media services full of surveillance

Like I get it, it’s scary and I don’t want them to have my data, but my picture is being taken ALL the time basically everywhere I go. Is putting my foot down for this specific type really making a difference?

The game was lost for me when I started getting fingerprinted at certain airports. This privilege used to be reserved for suspected criminals. Now we're are all suspected criminals on a default setting.

The last time I flew they did this, but there was a huge sign that said photos are immediately deleted after verification...is this not true?

It's about normalizing survellience, and the article also says this as an opinion further down in the text.

Everyone can see that we are going towards the society in black mirror, with social scores, and people being punished for not complying with rules of any kind. I'm glad I'm kind of old because the future will suck.

I find stupid to give away my biometric data to everyone asking for it just because I gave it away once in exchange of my passport, but I guess that's just me.