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[-] JayTwo@hexbear.net 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Tip creep is getting ridiculous and it's being laundered as pro worker, to boot.

Misfits Market, a grocery delivery service, sent out an email either early this year or late last year, about how you can now tip their delivery drivers!
Yay, show them your appreciation!

They were far less upfront about the fact that they gave them a 33% pay cut and are leaning on the tips (which are confusing to opt out of) to pick up the slack.

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago

Honestly holding the door open for each other is one of the positive things I like about us Yankees.

[-] WideningGyro@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

Wait, you can like "hold" a door open? What, with your hand? I'm European and I've literally never heard about that. I thought slamming doors straight in other people's faces was a universal thing. Learn a new thing every day.

I kid, of course. But for real, what makes you think of door-holding as a uniquely American thing?

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Out of the ten foreign countries I've been to in both Asia and Europe, me seeing instances of people holding the door open became as rare as me finding hyper-processed u.s.a-grade slop over the pond in either direction.

Stateside it was universally common in all eighteen states I've visited. It's just a form of the peculiarly distinct friendliness we exhibit here.

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

I don't see it enough.

I get resentful that I'm always holding doors and hardly anyone else does for me.

People say Americans are friendly but I don't get it. I'm not White, though.

[-] gueybana@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

People say Americans are friendly but I don't get it. I'm not White, though.

I genuinely think this is key, and probably why people don’t even acknowledge. Also part of why I get so pissed when they don’t.

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

Well if you come up to my neck of the woods I'll always hold the door open for ya, rain, snow, sleet, or shine

[-] WideningGyro@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

Where I'm from in Europe I think most people sort of think of it as just basic common courtesy, especially for older/disabled/people carrying stuff. At least, that's what's taught, but I wouldn't speculate on how often it actually happens here vs. the US. I did also once have a colleague from the US who was extremely (almost performatively, I would say) friendly about those kinds of small, polite gestures. So what do I know.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

Nah lol it's awkward. I can open the door, it's helpful only if one party is carrying something that might make it difficult.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

It's a matter of distance, if someone is like 40 or so feet away, that's a door hold, any further is outside of reasonable unless they're carrying stuff. It's nice but also if there's a crowd, it's efficient, everyone having to individually open a door that's closing on them slows things down and it's just a pill for everybody. If it's a big enough crowd do.thar thing where you kinda pass the door hold off to the next person behind you and move on.

[-] sempersigh@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Came to this thread expecting a discussion of American tip culture; instead I get 30+ comments arguing about door holding acknowledgement love this website

[-] gueybana@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Looks like I’m at the forefront of this door holding debate. As a former back of house restaurant employee, I’d probably get fucking wrecked for my opinion on tipping.

[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

I would probably not introduce tipping in my country where no one does it and we have a high minimum wage, but sometimes people try

[-] gueybana@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Call me selfabsorbed but I genuinely hate when i don’t even get an acknowledgement from people I hold the door for. I don’t want you to smile or say thank you or look me in the eyes but jist make some sort of indication that you know this door didn’t fucking magically pry itself open you twat.

It happens almost half the time, and I literally hold the door for everyone and can’t help not doing it. Every time I wish i could go back in time and slam it in their face, I’m not your personal bellboy

I know this is sn overreaction sorry

[-] princeofsin@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

You are right and basic acknowledgement of you helping someone should be normal and good

[-] Edamamebean@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

I don't disagree but if you don't want people to smile or say thank you or look you in the eyes what do you want them to do? Grunt of acknowledgement?

[-] gueybana@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Grunt of acknowledgement?

That’s good enough.

Or a handjob, at the very least.

[-] Edamamebean@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Ok good cause the only other thing I could think of is that strange nod men always talk about which I can't do as a woman

[-] callouscomic@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago
[-] JayTwo@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They don't know how to guy nod.
Just regular nod.

Me as an NB I am a master of both.

Edit: Or maybe I'm a master of neither.

Either way I do both nods with the same level of skill

*proceeds to try to nod but moves my entire body instead in a strange bowing movement*

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[-] Edamamebean@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

No but many men I've talked to claim there is some sort of man nod that they do at other men they see even if they're sttangers.

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

That's true, there is a universal nod.

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[-] nothx@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

It used to make me irrationally angry as well, but at some point in the past few years I’ve tried to stop letting things that happen in public get to me. My expectations are so low and the effort I put out anymore is even lower. When I’m out and about in public I try my best to keep to myself and ignore anything that isn’t gonna directly affect me.

Maybe this is a selfish way to go about it, but it is what it is. Being courteous doesn’t really benefit me in public most of the time. I’m not an outright dick to total strangers, I just don’t try very hard to be overly friendly.

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

I actually just replied to another comment about this, but I totally agree!!

Americans are so fucking rude. I hold open doors and hardly ever a damn thank you, much less getting doors held open for me. I usually just loudly say "You're welcome!" but they just ignore that too. Makes me never want to hold doors open to strangers again, but the spirit of my grandmother would be disappointed in me and I just can't help it at this point.

[-] mar_k@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

when i was in high school i had severe anxiety from repressed, untreated ADHD (which sometimes made it hard for me to control my tone of voice) that would make me overthink the fuck out of scenarios like this. my mind would race with how i should enunciate "thanks" the right way and wondering if my voice will seem shaky or nervous, and by the time i was ready it'd be too late lmao

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

I go big nowadays. They did a nice thing and I'm gonna let em damn well know I appreciate it. Full "thank you very much"

[-] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

I mean, why expect people to acknowledge something that they didn't request or need? Like, if they're holding an armfull of stuff, you help them with the door, and they don't acknowledge your help then yeah, you have a case. However, if they're just minding their business and you randomly open the door for them, then I think you're kinda being unreasonable to expect some kind of appreciation from someone when you don't know what their situation is.

Like, do you really expect some kind of report card on how good a boy/girl you were for holding open a door for some rando who might, for all you know, have a family member in the hospital, or be struggling to afford their bills, etc etc. If so, that lowkey makes you the Nice Guy asshole, expecting extra emotional labor from that person who really didn't ask for or even want that interaction with you.

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[-] CommunistBear@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

Maybe it's a regional thing? Here in the Midwest, I always get an acknowledgement and a thank you for common courtesies like that

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[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

I thought the comments would be dragging put the tipping struggle sesh. It's even weirder, folks.

[-] JayTwo@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

The people, they are finally tired of tip creep.

Door holding is where it's at now.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Don't act like you're not part of this

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[-] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

dutch people after they offer to have you over for dinner

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[-] anonochronomus@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

AHEM! These palms need greasin'.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

I'd compare this to the Ferengi, but the Ferengi had a less blood-soaked colonialist past than Burgerland does. quark

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