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Trump, the same Trump that killed boarder legislation because he didn't want to give biden a win?

Not him, no, never.

Via user kingshrubb: Apparently she retracted her comments https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/22/world/middleeast/trump-netanyahu-cease-fire-talks-israel-woodruff-pbs.html

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[-] Nougat@fedia.io 292 points 3 weeks ago

I'm gonna need more than somebody's social media post on this.

Edit: Because right now it's "somebody's" social media post with an unsourced and undated quote from "someone" referring to "reporting," with a picture of a lady that has a PBS/NewsHour watermark. This is exactly the kind of thing you should be skeptical of in the absence of better confirmation, all up and down that ladder of vagueness.

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 86 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)
[-] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 41 points 3 weeks ago

I would delete it but it's too relevant to the meme. Alternative link to the dnc footage would be nice, tho.

[-] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 weeks ago

The rueters one doesn't indicate anything about Trump talking to Bibi and discouraging him from setting up a peace deal.

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

To me it's still relevant because it establishes that trump has an open line of communication to bibi and he is directly expressing to him his thoughts about the Genocide in Gaza.

Wish there was more reporting around this.

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[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 32 points 3 weeks ago

Agreed. The "lady" is Judy Woodruff, PBS anchor and correspondent since it was the MacNeill-Lehrer News Hour, so it would greatly surprise me if she didn't have some credible evidence behind "the reporting is".

But I missed that moment last night, so I'd want to be sure she said it.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 154 points 3 weeks ago

So like the alleged deal between the Reagan campaign and Iran during the hostage crisis to get elected and oust Carter?

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 95 points 3 weeks ago

Or Kissinger and North Vietnam to get Nixon elected. It's a time honored Republican strategy.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 weeks ago

What do you mean? Oliver North took all the blame!

[-] TurnpikeRangers@lemmy.world 60 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Oh no, you're thinking of Iran-Contra, the other treasonous act that Reagan committed involving Iran. OP is talking about the rumored deal Reagan made with Iran wherein Iran would not release the American hostages until after the 1980 election. Coincidentally, the hostages were released on January 20th, 1981, the day Reagan was sworn in.

Sidenote, has anyone seen the Netflix documentary about the octopus murders? I think the proof that Reagan made that deal is at the heart of that conspiracy.

Edit: I've just come across this in another thread. It seems the hostage deal between Reagan and Iran did, in fact, happen. https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a43368900/reagan-iran-hostages/

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 weeks ago

Aw shucks. You know just when you think you hone in on one depraved scandal of Reagan, you realize you're mixing it up with another depraved scandal of Reagan.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

I do not recall.

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[-] socsa@piefed.social 64 points 3 weeks ago

It is crazy to me that all of the "Genocide Joe" crowd don't see that Netanyahu wants Trump to win so he can show the world what genocide actually looks like.

Well, not that crazy, considering a good portion of them are propagandists.

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It all so closely resembles 2016. Remember the phantom Bernie Facebook groups? Remember "Bernie supporters" voting trump instead. They think we are idiots and some of us must be for falling for it, time, and time again.

[-] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

I've noticed a considerable lack of the usual suspects from that particular crowd in this thread.

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[-] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 63 points 3 weeks ago

Isn't him doing that illegal? Like very illegal?

[-] paholg@lemm.ee 48 points 3 weeks ago

Do you think either Trump or Netanyahu gives a single shit about what's legal?

[-] orrk@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

look, he’s doing this in the context of his presidential duties, this makes it completely legal, duh, fucking serfs getting uppity. ~~SCOTUS

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[-] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, but if Reagan can get away with it

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[-] DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe if they stopped sending billions in weapons to Israel they could make something happen.

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[-] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 59 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago

Reagan did the same thing with the hostages in the embassy in Iran.

[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

Lol I was like "hold on, I've seen this one"

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

I feel like Nixon at least knew how to wear a suit.

[-] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

And actually did some decent things among his bullshit - one decent thing being starting the EPA.

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[-] Omgboom@lemmy.zip 50 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Dragomus@lemmy.world 55 points 3 weeks ago

"Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable with imprisonment for up to three years."

I can only say: Lock him up!

[-] ccunning@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

I can only say: Lock him up!

…if convicted by a jury of his peers…

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[-] demizerone@lemmy.world 45 points 3 weeks ago

Straight out of the Republican play book.

[-] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

and LITERALLY sedition

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 40 points 3 weeks ago

It's posts like this that always oddly have 0 tankie comments lamenting about genocide Joe. Weird how that is, it's like they avoid all articles that disprove their entire worldview. Crazy.

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[-] Aeri@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago

Just when you think he couldn't be any more cartoonishly evil.

"Oh waiter, more genocide please"

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[-] ME5SENGER_24@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago

Something, something, Iran Hostage Crisis, something, something, more bullshit from the Reagan playbook

[-] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

To all the "Harris and Trump are the same crowd, stop being so cowardly and try to say that shit here and now. Or don't, and confirm that this whole time you were being wilfully ignorant because you enjoy purity politics nonsense.

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[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Oh I'm just sure that Linkerbaan is reposting this as we speak. Since he totally wasn't lying about Trump supposedly trying to negotiate a ceasefire lol

[-] fosho@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 weeks ago

man I'm against genocide as much as any reasonable person. but fuck that guy.

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[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago

Doesn't that violate some US law? He is not authorized to negotiate with a foreign power. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act

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[-] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 24 points 3 weeks ago

The only reason I could believe it, is that it's happened before. See: Reagan and the Iran hostages.

Still, I'm going to need a better source. This seems uncharacteristically competent.

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[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 weeks ago

If that's true, it's absolutely abominable.

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[-] shasta@lemm.ee 16 points 3 weeks ago

We don't want boarders though. They will just kill us all and take our ship.

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Oh hey the traitorous traitor is doing traitor things.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 3 weeks ago

I don't want an end to killing because the killing helps me.

[-] Kalysta@lemm.ee 12 points 3 weeks ago

It’s Iran-Contra all over again.

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