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This is a community for designs specifically crafted to make the experience worse for the user. This can be due to greed, apathy, laziness or just downright scumbaggery.

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[–] Bonifratz@lemm.ee 131 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Funny how they don't even pretend there's any logic to it. If you can view it in the app, then the content has been reviewed after all...? Clearly just a way to enforce app usage.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 41 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They don't say it, but you can also go to old.reddit and there's none of those stupid warnings.

[–] grandma@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Still blocks my vpn though

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[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

They want ad revenue and the app is the only place they can be confident you’re not blocking.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 85 points 3 months ago (4 children)

We're expecting a giant influx of users when the popular workaround, old.reddit.com (perhaps with RES to make it less outdated), inevitably gets shut down. Please try to make Lemmy a worthwile space in the meantime so that they stay!

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 50 points 3 months ago (9 children)

As long as they’re fans of trans positive meme dumps and endless half-serious slap fights about distros, they'll feel right at home.

[–] ngwoo@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

They won't even notice anything changed

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[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Reddit is already rate-limiting old.reddit.com traffic. There are already few threads about it.

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

And please actively remind people to remain civil. We can be better than Reddit in so many ways. I believe!

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think Lemmy is and will be quite good at remaining civil because the questionable content makers use their own instances and get defederated. The most edgy community federated with the main cluster I found is !funhole@lemmy.sdf.org. It features cryptic posts that presumably make sense if you engage in the decentralized (IRC? Telnet??) discourse channels of sdf.org and some appear to be pro-fascist depending on how you interpret the questionable veil of sarcasm. I don't think it's serious enough to consider defederation because the worst ones get massively downvoted anyway.

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[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yes. However, we need to solve the chicken-and-egg problem of niche communities. For example, there is no Czech community at all after both the czech-lemmy.eu and kyberpunk.social instances went down. It's only once the communities get going and start appearing in "All/Active" feeds that I'd worry about serious moderation.

[–] ngwoo@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's a tough position to be in for non-English and regional communities. For something like a game you can cross post in both a general videogames community and a more specific one and help people find it, but there's not much of an option for any sort of non-English non-pop culture topic.

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[–] wazoobonkerbrain@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (9 children)

I joined lemmy just over a year ago when reddit killed its API. I hoped that my favorite subreddit would come here too but it didn't so I wandered back to reddit. I was clinging to old.reddit.com and would probably have stayed around for as long as that lasted. But recently they began requiring email addresses. That was too much and here I am.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can I ask which subreddit or is it private? I know which communities I miss but I'm curious what communities we need to cultivate for others.

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[–] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 68 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I hate the fact that reddit has so much valuable data in it, like thousands of extremely niche subreddits and answers to your questions.

I wish someone could just mirror it all

[–] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Actually, I found archiveteam's reddit dump. I think we can re-host this on activitypub, as a form of read-only, easy to browse archive.

The data is on archive.org is marked non-downloadable to limit traffic. I emailed archive.org requesting one of the 10GB pieces to experiment with. Fingers crossed

[–] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Hi Aesistril,

Thanks for contacting us.

If it is restricted it is not publicly available.

Thanks for using archive.org

Best, Internet Archive Team

I heard that they gave links when you emailed them but nah

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[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (4 children)

*had. I deleted all my posts that I could find. I hope many others did the same. "Conveniently" these assholes limit how far back in your post history you can go, and beyond that I can no longer delete comments because I can't systematically browse them to edit in "Fuck reddit!". :/

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 43 points 3 months ago

Over the last year I think I've dropped in about six times out of sheer habit, and each time I am driven away by the undeniable force of asshole design.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago

That's only on mobile browser mode. Open your browser settings and select Desktop site and you won't see that modal anymore.

Still an asshole design, though.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 3 months ago (3 children)

If you absolutely have to read something from reddit and it throws this, just switch to the desktop site instead of mobile.

[–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Desktop doesn't work anymore, gotta use old.reddit now.

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[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hilarious how their logic completely breaks down when doing that, and they don't even care if you know.

They want you to download the app so they can collect your data and push ads that can't be blocked with browser extensions.

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[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)

And the old.reddit site I believe

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[–] lung@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

Lemme apps are better now anyway, and no ads

[–] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (9 children)

I cannot stress this enough: if you just want to browse reddit without interacting with anyone and supporting their greedy, stupid bullshit, I highly recommend RDX.

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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I just posted to Reddit about my Twystlock gaming accessory release. Something free for everyone.

Most subreddits don't allow cross-posting, so I made 5 posts in total. 1 was taken down by mods. 3 were taken down by Reddit. Only r/Handhelds survived.

I don't use Reddit anymore in day to day, but I've had releases like Winapps sit at the top of r/Linux for days and never had these issues until more recently. Garbage.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

And yes, before anyone asks, of course I posted to Lemmy first 😆

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

And yes, before anyone asks, of course I posted to Lemmy first 😆

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 months ago

Thanks 😄

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[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yup. They got so desperate for money they first screwed developers with the API change and now they’re going to push this more and more. My expectation is they’re going to slowly move toward forcing usage of the official app or absolutely nothing else.

Spaz is desperate for ad money. I’m only in a few subs that have no Lemmy equivalent yet, but otherwise I’ve ditched reddit like the steaming pile of shit that it’s become.

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[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Havent tried for a while, but you used to be able to change the url to

https://old.reddit.com/r/…..

to bypass these shitty “use our app instead”. You don’t get mobile view but you can at least see it

[–] Malix@sopuli.xyz 14 points 3 months ago

the "new" design is pretty much unusable on desktop too, imo. IF I absolutely must visit reddit, old.reddit it is.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

There's also firefox extension that does just that, in case you forget.

[–] wazoobonkerbrain@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

On mobile you can use RedReader. When reddit revoked access to its API, it made an exception for RedReader, because that app supports certain accessibility features which are "not yet" (i.e. never will be) supported by the official reddit app. So if you still want to access reddit on mobile, use RedReader, it has no ads and is much less irritating than the official reddit app.

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[–] cheddar@programming.dev 18 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Reddit, Twitter. I don't understand why they are putting so much effort into making sure that people can't use them comfortably. I always thought there should be as few barriers for the user as possible, otherwise they might drop out. Are these platforms more concerned about selling data for LLMs now?

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 12 points 3 months ago

I always thought there should be as few barriers for the user as possible

This is stage 1 of enshittification. It used to be this way. Reddit is way past that stage.

[–] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago

They want to force people to use the app so they can steal their data easier. That's my guess lol.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Stop going back, it's not worth it

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Unfortunately there's still a ton of valuable and interesting information submitted to that site and nowhere else.

Fortunately there is Stealth for Reddit.

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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's funny because Ukrainian war videos are put into the main feed, and you can watch the videos. But when you click the title to read the comments it asks you to login for sensitive content.

It's such a shitty, buggy and slow website.

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[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I am a lazy prick, so I'm just now using Power Delete Suite to mass edit my stuff on reddit to promote lemmy.

Feel free to do that too.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I've heard a fair number of people say Reddit looks for and rolls back mass delete/edits like these. Not sure how true it is.

[–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 months ago

It did for me, like once or twice. Just running the script again worked though.

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[–] bmeffer@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Oldlander extension for Firefox. Works great.

[–] abobla@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

lmao, what was the subreddit?

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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

for browsing, there's reddit viewer.

https://reddit-viewer.com/r/lifehacks?sort=hot

just choose the sub and go.

no search functionality yet, unfortunately, which i assume lots of people would find useful, but skipping login is very nice.

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