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[-] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 133 points 2 weeks ago

Back when Obama made it where you couldn't be evicted and bailed out the auto industry, I had a friend that drove a car hauler. He wasn't paying his house payment and lived for free for a year, and only had a job because of the bailout. He talked mad shit about the bailout and about people living and not paying their rent. This is republikkklown logic. I was blown away and said to him, he wouldn't have a job or a place to live if it wasn't for that. He said he'd live somewhere else and get a different job.

Since then, he lives with his wife and child in his mom's house with a shit job and complains about people being on welfare. They don't get it.

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 70 points 2 weeks ago

If there’s any way they can punch down instead of address their own issues they’ll take it. It’s why they resort to going after made up nonsense or the most vulnerable.

[-] diskmaster23@lemmy.one 16 points 2 weeks ago

Typical. Everyone else is an asshole, but me.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, but he deserved that, unlike those lazy librulz.

[-] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 100 points 2 weeks ago

“I’m using affordable care act! I don’t want Obamacare!”

[-] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 2 weeks ago

“Keep your filthy government hands out of my Medicare!”

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago

"I've been on food stamps and welfare. Anybody help me out? No. No."

Actor Craig T Nelson on how the government never helped him.

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

So help me there was some big deal right wing personality who talked about how the government shouldn't subsidize education by saying that when he was a kid he wanted an education so he... went down to the public library and read books there. Not a hint of irony. Can't remember exactly who it was, but the dissonance stuck with me.

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If anyone doesn't know, this is an actual quote from a town hall meeting in '09 when the ACA was on everyone's mind.

[-] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago
[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Hmm, while it's widely quoted i dunno if there is audio/video to find

give me a bit to see if i can dig that up. If anyone wants to try as well it was in Simpsonville, South Carolina, by an unidentified person to congressman Bob Inglis.

Edit: it was reported by the Washington Post as happening on July 28 2009. While the Simpsonville town hall website keeps audio and transcriptions of its meetings, it seems to have purged all meeting records before 2015. Anyone else wanna take a crack at it?

[-] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The big one was a woman protesting holding up a sign showing that but there are many variants. Google image search “keep your government hands out of my Medicare” you’ll see a whole slate of them

[-] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

I literally knew a girl who said this. She truly had no idea that they were the same thing, but rattled on about wanting it gone while benefiting from it.

I also knew an older woman who hated Obama and said "he's arrogant for naming that after himself." She didn't believe me that her favorite channel was the one who named it after him unofficially and that its official name was ACA.

They truly just repeat bullshit until it sticks, and it usually works on the people who don't bother to diversify their information sources. It's so goddamn frustrating.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

She didn't believe me that her favorite channel was the one who named it after him unofficially and that its official name was ACA.

That can't be true, because I've heard it called Obamacare 30 times. Everyone knows it!

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[-] teft@lemmy.world 69 points 2 weeks ago

Temporarily embarrassed millionaires…

[-] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Te only reason they're not a millionaire yet is because of all the illegal immigrants and minorities taking all the jobs...probably

[-] dudinax@programming.dev 55 points 2 weeks ago

"Social Security's great for the old folks, but there's no way it'll be around when we're old"

Votes for the guy trying to destroy social security.

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, technically that's correct, if they keep voting for the guy trying to destroy social security lol

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[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 45 points 2 weeks ago

This is why the GOP has fought to destroy the public education system for decades: It's way easier to manipulate poorly educated people to vote against their own interests compared to well educated people who are more likely to have learned critical thinking.

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[-] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago

The amount of people I see being payed minimum wage but dont want a living wage is insane. I don't get it

[-] Fillicia@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 weeks ago

Same vibe as:

"I won't work overtime because I end up losing money on taxes"

That's not how tax brackets work!

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[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 37 points 2 weeks ago

What they (Republicans, conservatives, libertarians, centrists) really want is emergency departments over run with patients who can't get care for chronic conditions and then they have an excuse to repeal EMTALA. At that point they'll be able to sink people deep into medical debt and when social security and Medicare/Medicaid fails to cover the costs then we can force medically disabled people into low wage jobs and take their assets to sell at pennies on the dollar to mega corps and further consolidate wealth in this country.

We should instead create a pipeline for that wealth to flow through the lower and middle class on it's way up to the top bringing the floor up and making sure basic infrastructure like medical care has the funding it needs.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

If you make the wealthy ultra wealthy then their urine is full of healthy nutrients when they piss on you.

That’s the basis to tinkle down economics.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 26 points 2 weeks ago

No, no, they don't mean me! They mean all the people that don't deserve it!

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[-] MouseKeyboard@ttrpg.network 21 points 2 weeks ago

I don't need no Obummercare, I'm covered by the Affordable Care Act!

[-] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

I swear we're living in a season of South Park

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not American, but this happens a lot more than you'd think.

I live in Canada.

A relative of a friend actually voted for a party called "the People's party of Canada", and one of their goals as a party was to eliminate subsidized housing. That relative of my friend.... lived in subsidized housing and was not able to afford to have a home if not subsidized.

They literally voted for a party that, if they had won, would have made them homeless.

I don't think that the PPC won a single district (giving them no seats in government); much to their benefit and their disappointment.

Schools really need to teach critical thinking.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

But they're only going to repeal Obamacare, not the Affordable Care Act!

[-] Michal@programming.dev 19 points 2 weeks ago

To be fair it's not hypocritical to use service you're entitled to and still be against it. After all, you paid for it with your taxes.

[-] Tyler@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

But voting against it to remove its benefit to others is the hypocrisy. For instance, a cousin of mine was on her parents' insurance until the cutoff of 26 because of Obamacare and was all about getting rid of it. I would point out how she was only insured because of it (this was before her being 26 and booted off) and asked her what her next plan for being insured would be. Of course she didn't think that far ahead and just said she would be 26 by the time anything changed so it wouldn't matter.

The party of grifters is aptly put.

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[-] rickdg@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

When you’re mad for needing healthcare.

[-] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Reminds me of all my union brothers who vote for anti union conservatives

[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Cool meme, but surely you realize that using a system and being against the system are not in conflict.

Then again if they like the system and think it shouldn't be dismantled and still vote for someone who wants to dismantle, that's dumb stupid.

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[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 10 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like my retiree father-in-law who insists that Social Security isn’t a social service and should be the one exception to absolute abolition of all government services because they’re “communist.”

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[-] Pickle_Jr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

In Kansas it's a hot issue to expand ACA benefits and has widely popular support. Yet we for some reason keep on voting in Republicans whose major issues are just removing tax brackets.

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[-] niktemadur@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

You can mathematically group the people in your life in such a way so that half of the people you know are stupider than the other half.
I swear to fuckin' god, man, politics make it real easy to tell who goes in which half. It's not a perfect method, but it works at least 85% of the goddamned time.

[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I supported the ACA (though would’ve preferred a public option), but the one time I actually needed to use it, was for my Dad when his private insurance from his job kicked him off after retirement, the rates and coverage seemed bad, like it was just such a hassle with no great benefits. It’s only when I realized my Dad could still get Tricare that I switched over to that and that was a million times better (even more reason for govt-funded healthcare). I have no idea why my Dad hadn’t been using it the whole time either, he probably wasted tens of thousands of dollars getting private insurance. I still think ACA is a step in the right direction, BUT public option still needs to happen, Fuck Joe Lieberman for blocking that.

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[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago
[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 20 points 2 weeks ago

Nah. Relying on the ACA, and voting for people who want to abolish it is a leopards eating faces situation.

The guy in this meme is wrong because he's not paying attention to the wider pressures of society, and the needs of the people he's talking to, when those people just want a better system.

He disagrees with the woman demanding better ethical practices from Apple because she uses an Apple product, but the reality is that it is difficult to navigate modern society without a smartphone, and there's pretty much no brand that doesn't have some ethical failings in their supply chain. It's not hypocrisy to point out a systemic issue, and want to see it resolved, if your participation is unavoidable.

He disagrees with the man wanting seatbelts for his car, because he bought a car without them. Wanting greater safety features for the machinery you regularly operate is pragmatic, not hypocritical. Seeing a problem and offering a solution is a productive thing to do.

But relying on the ACA for access to healthcare, and then voting to have the ACA dismantled with absolutely no plan on how to replace it, essentially denying millions of Americans, including themselves, access to healthcare? That's just fucking insane. There's no call for a better system. There's no suggestion for how to do things differently. Just a call to tear down a system that people rely on for their health.

If you think that we ought to hear the Republicans out on their anti-Healthcare agenda, or that people who rely on the ACA aren't voting against their own interests when they vote Republican, you're not paying attention to what's at stake.

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