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Also maybe something about contradictions

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[-] FungiDebord@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago

No one is supporting Israel because of Obama

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

a lot of people say Harris haters are misogynistic and racist

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Which is very ironic given how racist a lot of the Harris campaign's rhetoric is. During the debate she spouted off lies about Palestinians sexually assaulting Israelis during October 7. Propaganda based off of old colonial tropes. It doesn't get much more racist than that. That's before even mentioning Harris' career as a prosecutor, making a career out of locking up minorities.

[-] Sulvor@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

Idk, I'd be willing to bet that a good chunk of Americans who are pro-Israel are only so to be contrarian. The issue wouldn't cross their minds if they didnt hear about "liberal activists" protesting the genocide on Fox News. And maybe they wouldn't be watching Fox News at all if it hadn't said their racist thoughts about Obama out loud 15 years ago.

pepe-silvia

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago

Cryptofascist media outlets across Burgerland for like 30+ years:

"Dae tired of gridlock in Washington?" anakin-padme-1

"We just need a strong man to ignore the gridlock and get shit done." anakin-padme-3

[-] lil_tank@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

Yeah I'd like a strong man that gets shit done too stalin-comical-spoon

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

Nah, recommend reading Dark Money and Democracy In Chains. Lawfare and superpacs were already making their mark, Obama was icing on the cake. Especially, because he totally leaned into their obstructionism.

[-] Sulvor@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So I actually read a bit about those books. Is the gist that the culture war is partly manufactured to create a sense of an enemy (LGBT+, immigrants, Marxists) for people to blame for the failures of capitalism and redirect their focus on?

I guess people hating Obama for being Black is just an effect of that influence, working exactly as intended.

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

Kinda, that's like scraping the surface though. The overall gist is that there is an obscene amount of money being spent on propaganda in the form of Think Tanks, NGOs, Accredited University Courses, Entertainment, even School Supplies like free worksheets teachers get for Labor Day and shit, etc... that are pushing individualist, pro-capitalism, anti-regulation, anti-union, anti-public schools, anti-worker ideas. The culture war shit is really like the low hanging fruit while they flood the corporate media with news stories and studies that shape our world in pretty much the same way the CIA does but on a much larger scale. Basically they supply the content needed to Manufacture Consent to normalize neoliberalism while funding the politicians who will place their judges and supply opposition.

One of the big "recent" examples, was The Great Barrington Declaration that attacked masking and lockdowns in 2020 that gave corporate media the ammo they needed to kill all the 'Flatten the curve' discourse. It was totally backed by Koch and other billionaires, as has been a bunch of other anti-mask and anti-vax events.

There's a third book I usually recommend with those two books which is Listen, Liberal by Thomas Frank which gives the history of how the Democratic party abandoned the working class... which was done with the help of the Koch Brothers who were on the board of the Democratic Leadership Council that got Bill Clinton elected. Between those three books you can get a really good handle on how neoliberalism took over the world.

These are two great excerpts from Listen, Liberal if you're interested.

https://tomdispatch.com/thomas-frank-the-inequality-sweepstakes/ The Blue State Model - How the Democrats Created a "Liberalism of the Rich"

https://harpers.org/archive/2016/04/nor-a-lender-be/ Hillary Clinton, liberal virtue, and the cult of the microloan

[-] Sulvor@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

Yeah I was being a little hyperbolic/facetious. I like my explanations for things to be 3 sentences or less.

i-love-not-thinking

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Fair enough, follow your dreams.

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

Trump is still doing birtherism against Obama in the year of our lord 2024.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He's still sending magazine clippings toward the guy that called him a "tiny fingered vulgarian" decades ago with his hands circled for emphasis. He's messy and catty. trump-anguish

[-] GoebbelsDeezNuts@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

The foundation of this country was built on top of a mountain of racism this shit inevitable.

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

Perfect username, Comrade. order-of-lenin

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

It'll only get worse.

[-] catonkatonk@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

I thought it was because videogames toned down the jiggle physics or whatever.

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