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Perhaps the best part of this anecdote was Swenson’s incredulous conclusion that the situation “could have been worse.” But he’s right that it was nice of the hacker to let him know his vacuum was hacked instead of spying on him indefinitely.

The most common issue people have with so-called “smart” home devices is that they often require a software subscription to access core functionality, and if the manufacturer goes under or stops supporting the device, it simply becomes a paperweight.

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[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 73 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Friendly reminder that the S in IoT stands for security

[–] joaomarrom@hexbear.net 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

what do you mean? I gave it my ID number, now it's called ID IoT and it's totally safe

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago
[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 54 points 1 month ago (4 children)

why does it need to have audio capabilities

[–] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 51 points 1 month ago

So it can yell slurs, duh

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They say things like “battery low” and “bin full” normally.

Why yes this is totally solvable with a colored indicator light or just beeping a certain number of times

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 38 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Then it will just beep slurs at me in Morse code.

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago

That will really piss off all 20 radio Hams in existence.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The ending of Parasite but instead of a heartfelt letter to his son, Ki-Taek just sends out a Nick Mullen bit on repeat for several years.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

for some reason my Smart Fridge wont stop cackling and saying "nooo nooooo nooo"

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[–] Edie@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)
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[–] kristina@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

why would you ever let a thing with a camera on it roam around your house connected to the wider internet? thats lan only shit

[–] The_sleepy_woke_dialectic@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My grandparents just got cop cameras (ring) and I don't want to go to their house anymore

[–] Chronicon@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

the only tiny saving grace of those pieces of shit is that they got rubes to put up battery powered cameras which are trivially easy to disable and often not active regardless due to a dead battery. I moved into a shared house with some. The batteries were charged like twice in 2 years and I put duct tape over the camera on the one facing the street

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 38 points 1 month ago

You ever see a post title that gets you to check if it was submitted to c/fakenews? Yeah...

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago (4 children)

From this to hacking the internet archive, hackers are not good anymore.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Hacker News" was the beginning of the end. bootlicker

[–] alexandra_kollontai@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hacker News in name only, for it is neither.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

I'm fairly certain at least a few of them have done malicious hacking in favor of their corporate masters, from petty shit like DDOS attacks on competing bibeo bames for the sake of tribalistic loyalty to Le Epic Blizzard to attacking internet archives for especially broken-brained reasons.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Anonymous is just a bunch of feds

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

The enshittification of everything under capitalism.

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[–] StalinStan@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Chan culture is disappointing. Cause there are so many funnier bits than just yelling slurs

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Chan culture hasn't been funny in a long time. It's still about that appropriated stoner frog in a bloated and smug pose parroting nazi slogans.

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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

Hacking into a robot vacuum cleaner and trying to get whoever you can find to feed it snacks.

[–] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

People think I'm weird for rejecting all smarthome tech. No I do not want that Alexa. No I don't want a camera system connected to the Internet.

But it seems so clear to me it's a bad idea... Like the line is funny but also not wrong. Yelling slurs is honestly barely on the list of the worst things someone with access to a house full of iot devices could do.

[–] Chronicon@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yeah and its always the dumbest shit that's the most egregious. This vacuum cleaner had a CAMERA and INTERCOM lmao

Or like smart plugs could so easily be a fire hazard but as uber-cheap consumer devices are some of the worst for design and security

[–] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Features your vacuum definitely needed...

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I just vacuum my house using a normal vacuum cleaner that'd like 25 years old. It blasts straight into a kitchen bag and is also a wet vac if you remove or change the bag. It takes like maybe an hour tops to vacuum a pretty bug house, it takes me like 15 minutes for my apartment. I consider a vacuum cleaner itself to be a bit of a luxury cause until pretty recently I just used a broom. A robot doing it is still weird and silly to me, let alone one that can yell slurs.

[–] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Seriously. I barely get the point of an vacuum bot even not connected to iot. Probably helpful if you are mobility impaired or possibly like hyper busy parent? But outside of specific use cases ya vacuuming ain't hard.

But seriously don't hook it to the net

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm a bit of a weirdo about digital stuff to a certain extent. I believe there's a value in tangibility and friction. I don't want s robot to clean my house cause it's my house(not really it's my rented apartment but if anything this makes me feel stronger about my point) and it'd my mess, cleaning it myself gives me a sense of ownership of both. Cleaning my own apartment is my responsibility and I reap it's rewards by having a nicer space to be in. That's the kind of labor joy can be found in, those are moments of genuine experience even if they suck at the time at least the reward feels rewarding and proportional to the task. I'd hate to let a robot take it away from me even if it is a chore. It's MY chore. Let the roombas sweep up my work instead. It's not a glamorous or pleasant part of life but it is part of living to do your own maintenance. Hold on to any unalienated labor you can afford to

[–] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Totally. It's not like I like doing dishes exactly but damn if I don't feel excellent standing in my clean kitchen. Way bigger feeling of accomplishment than I get at work. I've accomplished something with a clean kitchen and I'll accomplish more worth what labor when I dirty it up again by cooking.

It's the a reason that I'm always weirded out by rich types with servants doing the most basic tasks. Like I don't feel comfortable having someone clean my house for me... And a personal chef?? Couldn't be me

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It'd sorta why I get where og protestant work ethic come from, day to day life was laborious but you did reap.the fruits of a solid amount of it. Working is good. Going to work sucks.

[–] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Working is good. Going to work sucks.

Exactly. I wanna contribute. No not to billionaires pocket book but to myself and my community

[–] DoiDoi@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

The more premium models just sense a black person and follows them around saying "are you sure you're in the right house? I'm going to need some proof that you live here. I know everyone in this neighborhood and I've never seen you around before"

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago

Mullen protocol initiated

[–] Dickey_Butts@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

Damn imagine waking up in a delirious state to your vacuum shouting gamer words at you like you woke up in a Counterstrike lobby

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My only “IoT” device is a Roomba, not whatever brand this was but it’s not like the Roomba brand is somehow immune to this kind of thing.

I love this machine, having 2 cats and a very furry dog it’s a life changer. A vacuum that runs every day on its own with me just having to empty the bin? Fucking amazing. Can’t recommend it enough.

I wish so badly that it wasn’t connected to the internet. Why do you need that? Can’t we just have some buttons to set a schedule? Did I really need an app?

Robot vacuums that have no internet connection do exist, but they’re worse. Like, they will literally just do a worse job of vacuuming your floor. The dumb ones just bump around randomly until it notices there’s no more dirt. The internet connected ones map the room and can put straight lines on the floor and make sure they don’t miss spots.

But they don’t actually need the internet for any of that aside from starting it. If the internet goes down it keeps the same schedule and map. Which means they could do all of it with no reason to connect to the internet.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

Does it use some kind of cloud service to get the map initially? It's a lot harder to commercialize a solution without the IoT buzzwords and management loves that garbage sadly. But it might be nontrivial to take the existing product and make it work seamlessly without ever connecting to that cloud service.

[–] Chronicon@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

so just set it up on a hotspot with a throwaway name and then never let it go online again

[–] Grandpa_garbagio@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hate that this is a very funny thing to have been done

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have them read some bad fanfics out loud instead. Slurs is the least funny and most G#mer thing they could've done smdh

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[–] LocalOaf@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

The ~~future~~ present continues to suck ass in new and unexpectedly shitty but kind of banal ways

cryptocurrency monke-beepboop

[–] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I learnt about roomba-jacking from Boonta Vista.

[–] M68040@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

Hell of an episode to kick off an 8 hour drive with, that's for sure

[–] LigOleTiberal@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

too bad it wasn't based commies who hacked them, and made them start reading the communist manifesto out loud. that would be amazing. imagine.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That would have been the "could have been worse" mentioned in the article. porky-scared

[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

the future america deserves

[–] FungiDebord@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

Tbf it stepped on a Lego.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Once again freeze-gamer proving to be the greatest argument for legalizing abortion. They have nothing of value to bring to this world.

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