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[–] data1701d@startrek.website 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

To be fair, I’d say cowboy appearances would be relatively proportional to the population, maybe 1 or 2% of each series… Except DS9, which has a bit of an Alamo obsession.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Should come as no surprise the folks stationed on DS9 were obsessed with the defense of a lone fortress against impossible odds.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The difference being that the Federation was there by consent of the Bajorans and didn't proceed to seize the entire area from its rightful owner. 😂

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

Like Gul Dukat, James Bowie and William Travis came to impose slavery on the native population.

The battle of the Alamo is presented as tragedy but the fact is the good guys won.

[–] sirblastalot@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think TOS had as many mobster episodes as it did cowboy episodes.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It had an oddly large amount of episodes involving ancient Mediterranean civilizations, though… Those darn Greeks/Romans taking over our Trek!

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

I mean, there's Romulans

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I always thought the glaring western motifs were a tribute to the original concept of Star Trek being “A wagon train to the stars.”

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Nah, it's for the same reason they never went to a jungle world.

Back in the day they just shot everything in the desert outside of LA. It's the whole reason westerns were a thing in the first place, free setting.

So there was a bunch of props and sets from the studio, and Star Trek could do it for free.

I mean, wasn't even MASH in the desert for some reason?

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

The Original Series straight-up used the Downtown Mayberry set from The Andy Griffith Show twice.

Star Trek used a LOT of stuff from other properties due to money. But I still feel like the western sets were used by choice. Especially in Enterprise, which was meta at that point.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

I thought it was because they all like spaghetti

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 month ago

It is the reason a lot of Stargate was shot in various temperate rain forests.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Did Voyager or Discovery ever have cowboys?

[–] Cagi@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

In cowboy times they went to Fairhaven, Ireland instead.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago

Guess Tom Paris prefers horseless carriages.

[–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

Maybe not literally, but the season 3 episode where Discovery arrived in the future went hard on the western vibes. I think they even included swinging saloon doors at one point.

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It worked in blazing saddles!

[–] mxcory@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago

He said the sheriff is near!

[–] ShamanSpiff@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Fun fact: Star Trek has lasted longer than the wild west did. 58 years versus 47 years

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

you would do well to stay away from firefly.

[–] amzd@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

These are literally paid advertisements for the animal agriculture lobby.

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't underestimate the power of "We need a cheap episode, where's the literal decades of western props we keep in storage?"

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

In case of TOS, they literally pitched it as a kind of Western but in space to the studios due to the popularity of the genre on TV (both DeForest Kelly and Shatner had also already appeared in Western serials).