Slop.

Meanwhile, the system predicated on infinite growth being possible is mathematically sound!

Least condescending liberal. I can smell the reddit off that mf.

Yay this was in response to me!

I love that this started as 'AOC isn't bad, actually' and they've had to shift their goalposts so many times that the only point they hold on to is that because some people can't learn to read no system is good. I've never had the joy of watching someone do the 'screaming 'I'm not owned' as I turn into a corn cob' tweet in real time

1+1= communism is impossible

take that tankies

They really have to explain what the fuck they mean by something so incomprehensible.

Claims to have mathematically proven it, yet does not provide a mathematical proof. Curious.

Mathematically the concept of "people only have as much as they need" is actually impossible in a finite world. Mathematically the concept of "infinite growth" is possible in a finite world. The math I'm using was developed by a preschooler but you can't argue against it because I didn't tell you that.

As a person who literally did a systems theory course last semester, one of the things I learnt was that it is definitely possibly to predict and plan the growth of an economy with a reasonable amount of computing resources.

Furthermore I unironcally have 0 clue as to what this guy could be referring to with "mathematical proof" that Communism leads to authoritarianism.

I swear to God if you neglect your philosophical education the only thing you will get out of STEM is a fat wallet and a brain full of rubbish, good only at a narrow set of tasks.

Bro unironically thinks he's smarter than a Corgi. BZZT WRONGO.

What kind of libertarian dipshit so we think this person is?

I need a place to put this comment for after this jagoff gets banned, so behold the smugness of a high-school-aged liberal inside a cozy bubble of "I've looked into communism, and it's bad".

yeah i can see why facts are hard for you to grasp. but you know, I definitely trust the numbers from the USSR and China.... they havent been caught lying about their metrics at all..... oh and huh I guess they havent quite nixed it in the bud yet either... surprise. I also find it hilarious when you start digging into the numbers that detail in which the distinction between literate and illiterate between US and china is hilarious. they're measuring completely different things, the US is focusing of complex language analysis and china just publishes 'yeah they can read and write'. But lets do it anyway using china's metric.

china is vastly superior with its 97% literacy vs the US's 95.8%. damn. communism is definitely the superior system. you got me. I'm totally convinced one system definitely isnt shit. I definitely can't think of any policies in china that would have potentially influenced this...... oh whats this? the US information has a breakdown on the illiterate group....

4.2% of respondents who were unable to be assessed due to language barriers, cognitive disability, or physical disability.

huh, go figure. exactly my assertion that you can't hit 100%.

So remind me again what was your point? Dont get me wrong I admire some outcomes communist countries achieve just not at the cost. Just as I admire some things capitalist countries have achieved, just not at the cost. Essentially both systems are fundamentally flawed, both systems are capable of massive outputs at the expense absolutely abhorrent treatment of people just in different ways.

And remember, I think both systems are shit. I've looked into both. found both wanting on purely human decency grounds. They both trend towards hierarchical societies that shit on an underclass. and yes, this by design. both systems are underpinned by an economic policies based on mathematical principles to achieve some particular set of goals. both are unstable. capitalism for its need to grow uncontrollably and lack of a strong guardrails towards positive feedback loops for individuals economic power, which leads to subversion by dictators. Communism because of its economic centralization is easily subverted and dismantled by dictators. One just takes longer depending on the starting point but both trend to the same end result.

I love it when chismé filters down to pure, grade-a slop

Fuckk, this is good slop lol, I went in and spent a little time arguing with them

Very interesting, I've never seen this from the (their words) "system dynamics, distributed systems, and its intersection with political theory" angle before. It just makes sense to me if you see a mathematician or logician doing it (tbh I feel like the reason a lot of math people aren't interested in philosophy of math is cuz a lot of their stuff has..... bad metaphysical implications. And the ones that are are usually very anti-communist lol at least in the imperial core) but a "systems theory" person? Wild, considering the history of systems theory in the imperial core is basically a project to rehabilitate dialectical thinking without the communism lol

dear god thats literally a fucking seminar worth of work. plenty of people have already written about the mathematical weaknesses in both communism and capitalism I dont need to rehash it

I asked who these people they're referring to are, I expect no answer lol but would be pleasantly surprised if they clarified even a little about wtf they're talking about

Can we see the math on how finite resources == infinite profits? For example, use the United States that totally isn't an authoritarian police state, if we are gonna use the big bad scary words.

mensa jatone, more like man's a jabroni.

ipso facto. boom, gottem. Q E D caveat emptor

Phew, it's a good thing no authoritarianism of any kind exists under capitalism.

Sorry kiddo, capitalism has proved that capitalism is the only way to achieve real capitalism.

27*98=authoritarianism

sorry OP, the math checks out. you've been owned on reddit.