Slop.

Hey! It's one of these nerds again! TranscendentalEmpire @lemm.ee, I'm not sure if they had their account removed or not since I can't tag it but essentially they were doing the same shit as this but started off with a analysis of Russia and Ukraine and deevolved into actual racism and gargling about "world" systems theory to which their interpretation of such was that "Well, whenever country dies there is vacuum and since we have a hegemony if this hegemony dies China will simply become a new hegemony and do the same stuff because systems theory says so.

There is zero understanding or interpretation of historical conditions, nothing more than just "it will do same thing because humans bad" and I don't even think he was grasping world systems theory very well in the first place. Is this a new lib-meta with loser STEM-nazis using systems theory in lieu of historical materialism in order to actually have a memory longer than an election cycle? Evolution really is a messy process.

Found the quote:

""Or, it just creates more and more war because people keep supporting far right governments.

I don’t think people understand that global system theory is just theory, and a theory entirely dependent on the continuation of capitalism. If you actually believe in a hegemony as it’s written in global systems theory, then it precludes the chance a country like China will ever overthrow it with anything other than another capitalist hegemony."

hmmmm....why is there so much manifested support for certain far-right governments out of nowhere?

As a person who literally did a systems theory course last semester, one of the things I learnt was that it is definitely possibly to predict and plan the growth of an economy with a reasonable amount of computing resources.

Furthermore I unironcally have 0 clue as to what this guy could be referring to with "mathematical proof" that Communism leads to authoritarianism.

I swear to God if you neglect your philosophical education the only thing you will get out of STEM is a fat wallet and a brain full of rubbish, good only at a narrow set of tasks.

Yay this was in response to me!

Claims to have mathematically proven it, yet does not provide a mathematical proof. Curious.

Meanwhile, the system predicated on infinite growth being possible is mathematically sound!

I love that this started as 'AOC isn't bad, actually' and they've had to shift their goalposts so many times that the only point they hold on to is that because some people can't learn to read no system is good. I've never had the joy of watching someone do the 'screaming 'I'm not owned' as I turn into a corn cob' tweet in real time

Least condescending liberal. I can smell the reddit off that mf.

Bro unironically thinks he's smarter than a Corgi. BZZT WRONGO.

Fuckk, this is good slop lol, I went in and spent a little time arguing with them

Very interesting, I've never seen this from the (their words) "system dynamics, distributed systems, and its intersection with political theory" angle before. It just makes sense to me if you see a mathematician or logician doing it (tbh I feel like the reason a lot of math people aren't interested in philosophy of math is cuz a lot of their stuff has..... bad metaphysical implications. And the ones that are are usually very anti-communist lol at least in the imperial core) but a "systems theory" person? Wild, considering the history of systems theory in the imperial core is basically a project to rehabilitate dialectical thinking without the communism lol

dear god thats literally a fucking seminar worth of work. plenty of people have already written about the mathematical weaknesses in both communism and capitalism I dont need to rehash it

I asked who these people they're referring to are, I expect no answer lol but would be pleasantly surprised if they clarified even a little about wtf they're talking about

1+1= communism is impossible

take that tankies

What kind of libertarian dipshit so we think this person is?

They really have to explain what the fuck they mean by something so incomprehensible.

"Okay honey, I'll talk slow and use small words so you understand me" proceeds to say the most incomprehensibly convoluted, hare brained shit they obviously just are making up based on bias and superstition

Mathematically the concept of "people only have as much as they need" is actually impossible in a finite world. Mathematically the concept of "infinite growth" is possible in a finite world. The math I'm using was developed by a preschooler but you can't argue against it because I didn't tell you that.

Can we see the math on how finite resources == infinite profits? For example, use the United States that totally isn't an authoritarian police state, if we are gonna use the big bad scary words.

I need a place to put this comment for after this jagoff gets banned, so behold the smugness of a high-school-aged liberal inside a cozy bubble of "I've looked into communism, and it's bad".

yeah i can see why facts are hard for you to grasp. but you know, I definitely trust the numbers from the USSR and China.... they havent been caught lying about their metrics at all..... oh and huh I guess they havent quite nixed it in the bud yet either... surprise. I also find it hilarious when you start digging into the numbers that detail in which the distinction between literate and illiterate between US and china is hilarious. they're measuring completely different things, the US is focusing of complex language analysis and china just publishes 'yeah they can read and write'. But lets do it anyway using china's metric.

china is vastly superior with its 97% literacy vs the US's 95.8%. damn. communism is definitely the superior system. you got me. I'm totally convinced one system definitely isnt shit. I definitely can't think of any policies in china that would have potentially influenced this...... oh whats this? the US information has a breakdown on the illiterate group....

4.2% of respondents who were unable to be assessed due to language barriers, cognitive disability, or physical disability.

huh, go figure. exactly my assertion that you can't hit 100%.

So remind me again what was your point? Dont get me wrong I admire some outcomes communist countries achieve just not at the cost. Just as I admire some things capitalist countries have achieved, just not at the cost. Essentially both systems are fundamentally flawed, both systems are capable of massive outputs at the expense absolutely abhorrent treatment of people just in different ways.

And remember, I think both systems are shit. I've looked into both. found both wanting on purely human decency grounds. They both trend towards hierarchical societies that shit on an underclass. and yes, this by design. both systems are underpinned by an economic policies based on mathematical principles to achieve some particular set of goals. both are unstable. capitalism for its need to grow uncontrollably and lack of a strong guardrails towards positive feedback loops for individuals economic power, which leads to subversion by dictators. Communism because of its economic centralization is easily subverted and dismantled by dictators. One just takes longer depending on the starting point but both trend to the same end result.