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Religion doesn’t count. We’re on Lemmy, so neither does communism.

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[–] Aradina@lemmy.ml 36 points 10 hours ago (3 children)
[–] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 8 hours ago
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[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 34 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

The godfather does insist upon itself

[–] Esoteir@hexbear.net 21 points 9 hours ago

im with peter on this one

peter-running

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[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 25 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Most people - including Marxist thinkers and people here on Hexbear - do not understand what idealism is and subscribe to a critique of it that says that Platonism and most versions of religious idealism - probably the most popular examples of idealist schools of thought - are not idealist schools of thought.

People also seem to unfortunately like to come to a conclusion first, and then try to fit the facts to match that conclusion, like when people try to argue that the PRC's economy is currently socialist despite it featuring significant private property (and, thus, profit motive). (Going to note here that there is a room to argue that it isn't capitalist on the grounds of the capitalist class not being sufficiently dominant, which I am not equipped to discuss right now, and why I do not call it such.)

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Do you have any resources or examples that might clearly demonstrate what idealism is and isn't?

[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 15 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Right now, I don't have any sources ready, and I know for certain that the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy article on idealism explicitly excludes non-recent branches of idealist schools of thought.

There are at least two definitions of ontological idealism (and two corresponding ones for ontological materialism) that I have seen. One of which characterises idealist schools of thought as positing that (some) non-material things have some sort of primacy over material things (note that non-material things are not limited to thoughts). Another definition is broader and simply requires idealist schools of thought to posit that non-material things exist (while the corresponding definition for materialism requires those schools to posit that only material things exist).

Contrary to popular perception, idealism does not require you to believe in magic, including that we can psychically change matter. Simply, for example, subscribing to the idea that math does not depend on matter is idealist.
Also, while religious idealism (most prominently Christian idealism) does require you to believe in magic, it also doesn't require one to believe that it is thoughts that have any sort of primacy over matter.

I am also pretty sure that I'm not alone in considering relevant disagreements to be at least mostly linguistic in nature. I have heard that Wittgenstein said something to the same effect, but have not checked.

[–] SweetLava@hexbear.net 5 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

i personally thought the most common form of idealism was summed up as this: "humans cannot perceive reality perfectly, they perceive things to their human limit and see appearances of things"

or, alternatively: "humans have experiences that trascend humanity itself and can't be fully understood by humans"

For Marx in particular, he saw any theory divorced from practical experience as a slipperly slope towards idealism - I'm still working through this argument myself, though, and I believe I misunderstood his point. I'm not very strong on my Young Hegelian critiques, truthfully

[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 6 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

i personally thought the most common form of idealism was summed up as this: "humans cannot perceive reality perfectly, they perceive things to their human limit and see appearances of things" or, alternatively: "humans have experiences that trascend humanity itself and can't be fully understood by humans"

It is definitely not that. The points about imperfection of perception are not relevant to either of idealism and materialism themselves.

For Marx in particular, he saw any theory divorced from practical experience as a slipperly slope towards idealism

I have not encountered Marx saying so, but that would be silly, as idealism isn't some sort of a detachment from practice, and I would argue that there are no serious incompatibilities between idealism and Marxism (at the very least, nobody has managed to bring any of such to my attention, so far).

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[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 29 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe not mooost controversial, but the legend of korra is not only worse than ATLA, but it is pretty much garbage. Lib garbage, too.

[–] crime@hexbear.net 27 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

missing the crucial appeal of the series, which is that lesbians will watch anything with lesbians in it

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[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 7 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

season 3 was good and I liked the flashback episodes in season 2

1 didn't understand it's own politics and 4 was abysmally bad

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[–] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 9 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

The SANDF should intervene in Gaza at least to airdrop food and medical aid from Egypt, as well as provide armed security for convoys. IDF aren't going to attack a South African MRAP and Gauteng is literally too far away to bomb.

South Africa should also criminalise the SAZF, SAJBD and SAFI, in addition to the Herzlia and Theodore Herzl schools for providing material and financial support to the IDF directly. Aside from the obligations set by the ICJ ruling and more vocal demands for South Africa to take more punitive actions against the Nazi entity a continent apart, the listed organizations are also directly advocating for terrorist attacks against other South Africans, especially humanitarian workers and refugees, including those who already escaped to safety in South Africa.

I personally recommend a lawsuit against the SAJBD in the area of R2 Trillion ZAR

[–] Aquilae@hexbear.net 17 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Oooh I can smell a struggle session coming up

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

A few years back, after a series of struggle sessions, admins actually had a "no 'what's your most controversial opinion' rule". But things have chilled out heaps since then, and I can't yet be bothered to report.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Still not going to repeat my most controversial opinions; they're a bit of an iceberg, even excluding the bad takes that weren't solid stances.

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 4 points 6 hours ago

My most controversial takes are stuff that Hexbear gets behind. Either that, or there's a specialised comm here that supports my opinion (in opposition to the majority of people in Burgerland).

[–] gramxi@hexbear.net 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I like the fakenews comm and its original posters

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[–] HiImThomasPynchon@hexbear.net 18 points 10 hours ago

Only dogs should have the right to vote.

[–] GrosMichel@hexbear.net 15 points 9 hours ago

The Sega Dreamcast is a gen 5 console.

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[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 15 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I liked the HBO Watchmen series despite the fact that Alan Moore definitely hates it.

[–] HamManBad@hexbear.net 6 points 8 hours ago

I remember enjoying it for the most part

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[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 7 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I liked season 2 of true detective. And i loved Dark Souls 2 (at least the Scholar of the First Sin version)

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[–] ProjectCyberSin@hexbear.net 14 points 10 hours ago

Outdoor cats

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 12 points 10 hours ago

Bottomless Pit is Death Grips' worst album. It feels like it brings nothing new to the table, like if you hear that album first and The Money Store second, you'd think Money Store shows great progress.

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 2 points 8 hours ago

reading is dumb

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