chapotraphouse

Trained and funded them as well. Almost as if it served the long term goals of empire or something.

There you go, burgering it up. Anyone else without the burger-brain worms can get exactly what I mean.

That's stooping to an asinine level that is ascribing "the west" to all these working and lumpen victims, many of which are LITERALLY COLONIZED PEOPLE

Way to put words in my mouth there. As someone who is also exactly what you describe (lumpen colonized POC). But yes, surely, the wholesome chungus settler-imperial core is wholly devoid of responsibility and people pointing out the hypocrisy is the height of misanthropy and psychopathy, and any humor or irony found in such a situation is unequivocally directed towards the most innocent BIPOC babies and apolitical lumpen rather than the broader society and global inequalities as a whole, and even pointing it out or having the sentiment is the equivalent of a little genocide. Didn't'cha know, when you say "mag bar Amrika" there's a little black, indigenous USAmerican baby that falls right down dead.

It's fucked up burgers have these pretentious and self-righteous expectations of infinite virtue, respect, and placidity from the rest of the world, but start crying foul and malding when their society is called to task for not doing the same (rather the opposite). It's especially fucked up to take great lengths to try to defend it. It is insular Americacentrism, cartoonish levels of uncharitable extrapolation (so as to find perceived slight) and disproportionate reaction, a dismissiveness of the global context of inequality and exploitation by the imperial cores, and an unqualified and arbitrary absolution with no rooting in reality of the broader societal guilt within colonial society done through said uncharitable extrapolations.

(Do you really think any meaningful percentage of these victims too poor to leave the regions facing mass-death from capitalism's destruction of the planet are the same people you see on Twitter being fascist?)

Once again, where did I say that? I said it shouldn't be celebrated. But no, people finding humor or irony in the tables turning, not being bottomless wells of empathy and infinite tolerance for the broader context of western-characteristic selectivism, or not personally laying down and mourning YanKKKee disasters (to which there is almost always no reciprocity) is not some "unlimited genocide on AmeriKKKans" or whatever you seem to think it is (do you really think that any meaningful or sensible interpretation of what I said, or of what is being said in this thread- rather than what is being referred to with vague accusatory gestures, is the same as calling for or mocking the death of all the poorest and disenfranchised in Burgerstan?) and is, as I said in my original post, truly an issue of blundering about with no societal or contextual self-awareness and yet paper-thin skin.

Today I learned Wall Street is in DC.

Pelosi

Out of curiosity, what is good about DC except the museums?

Also not to dox myself, but if it happened here as well, I can guarantee we (the country) asked for it, and the world would be better off for it (net positive as you said). Honestly, while it would be utterly tragic and would wipe out much of my immediate family as well and likely my partner and I as well in the aftermath- I'd go so far as to say that if Yellowstone had a massive eruption (of the worst scale imaginable), so long as the US doesn't launch the nukes to bring the rest of the world down with them (entirely possible, maybe even more likely than not) the rest of humanity would be better off (despite the resulting volcanic winter and likely famines that would cause, and the massive disruption or more accurately destruction of much of the modern world economy).

Things are just that bad, and the west is only trying to force the world to even worse. They (the west) only have terrorism now to offer the world; their system is defunct (anyone here should already understand that much, even if it's Hexbear) and is at such a point where it is literally cannibalizing itself and not just destructive and inefficient (as rentier/exploitative behavior always was), but wholly counterproductive to actual production and real wealth (not talking about capital, and wealth can be held either in private or public/proletarian control but you get what I mean) and prosperity, and destroying itself and trying to drag the rest of the world down with it to sustain its contradictions. And that's before getting into the multiple pressing crises their system is causing- climate change, nuclear war, pandemics, neoliberalism...