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[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (12 children)

I agree that the US isn't fascist in the traditional sense, which I believe is all that is being argued, but two things:

  1. What do you call a country that continuously props up fascist states abroad? That seems to me to be something [at least] as bad as fascism, even if it bears a different name.

  2. Umberto Eco is a bad source for explaining fascism to someone who isn't a literal child, and even then I think a high schooler can do better. He is describing a disease based on a scant few cases pretty much exclusively through a set of symptoms and never actually understanding the disease itself. You might need to read more than five pages to understand the political-economic mechanics of fascism's development within a society.

[–] migo@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)
  1. Imperialist and colonialist and of course it is bad, not arguing the contrary.
  2. It is, and there are a lot more to discuss the causes and how fascism appears, but it is an attempt at a definition because fascism isn't linearly defined. If you read up on the actual somewhat consensual fascist regimes of 20th century Europe they have significant differences between Salazar, Franco, Mussolini or other. But we don't consider imperialist UK fascist despite being a political abomination. Words matter and labeling everything fascist does a disservice for any political discussion.

Regardless my main point is that we must, as individuals, live within the realms of systems we disagree with. And saying everything is the same is just not understanding nuance, in my opinion.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 31 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

just not understanding nuance

As always, "nuance" means bootlicker

[–] migo@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

You're the fucking bootlicker making decisions that really only benefit the imperialists and billionaires.

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 26 points 2 weeks ago

Says the person who is arguing for supporting imperialists and billionaires lol
yeah I'm sure Harris is gonna change something real soon because she can feel how your vote for her wasn't actually a vote in support it was just meant against Trump just this one time, it's the most important election of all time after all.
You people are all the same. No reason to waste time writing out new thoughtful arguments, when you just repeat the same bullshit, so here you go another link in the chain

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 23 points 2 weeks ago

Looks like your nuance is intensifying.

bootlicker bootlicker bootlicker farquaad-point

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago

no your really a Bootlicker .. your Modus of Reasoning is the Modus of a Bootlicker .. before every Principle , the "Bootlicker allgoritm" runs over your every Decision.

In a Democracy you vote for who represents you . You do not let a wierd pathetic Bootlicker allgoritm run over the fact that that you vote for who represents you . And if nobody Represent you , you dont vote.

DO you understand how easy it actually is , without you activating the Bootlicker Systems of yours ?

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah imperialists love it when you oppose imperialism

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