this post was submitted on 18 Dec 2024
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This is a W. They're doing our job for us: arming the working class of the next generation.
I don't know. Was it a W when the Hitler Youth got the same training? It's not like these kids are all that likely to use this knowledge for a good purpose. Maybe I'm being pessimistic.
No you’re being optimistic lmao
I'm optimistic about the future. I think it'll be alot harder to propogandize the youth than it was back in Nazi Germany. There's bound to be quite a few radicalized communists, too
Have you never studied about Poland ??????
These people say that the “Nazis were better than Soviets cause Nazis are civilized”
In what way are you optimistic
Anti communism is a state policy ,communist parties are absolutely illegal there and you’re taught that Stalin and Hitler are the same
These are the people teaching them
No it’s not
“Working class”
Lmao
These are all labour aristocrats
Who would use these to shoot immigrants
Poland is not in the imperial core, it very much would like to be an imperialist power, but it isnt, the degree of exploitation is not as high as in the 3rd world, but its still exploited by the imperialist powers, for example germany uses poland for cheap labour
The funniest thing is that right-wingers in Poland usually use contradictory narratives to push their narrative of "communism bad, capitalism good". Poland wants to be considered western, but at the same time it always blames the west (especially Germany for partitions and nazi occupation, and allies for "betrayal") for its shortcomings. The Germans are also blamed for "controlling" liberal political parties, while conservatives also usually implement reforms that allow for lower taxes for western corporations and privileged treatment in special economic zones that benefit Germany. Poles know that their economy is almost totally dependent on the EU, but somehow they always want to make it seem like that the economy is a "miracle" compared to PPR. Polish political discourse is also filled with absolutely insane russophobia and orientalism, to the point where General Staff of the Polish Army, for example, shows this nonsense on their twitter account. Poland weaponizes its "victimhood" to force anti-russian and anti-communist narratives, but at the same time it wants to be like the countries that abused Poland.
I completely agree
Tell them about Afghanistan and Iraq and they will show their hypocrisy
It very much a servent of imperialist powers
And is an imperial power
Just a very small one
The idea their actions in Afghanistan and Iraq aren’t imperialist is laughable
I agree that poland is a loyal dog of the imperialists, but it isnt an imperialist power itself, it didnt make the decisions to invade Iraq and Afghanistan and never benefited from it, it merely aided in these invasions to demonstrate it's servility
They're children. They have no blood on their hands yet. It is our job to ensure they're properly educated.
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They’re from Poland
Communist parties are illegal there
I’m not saying I hate these kids ,I’m saying that they’re being taught by anti communist losers who are teaching them to use on immigrants and not for “self defense”
I despise Poland with every fiber of my being ,not just for its anti communism ,it’s disgusting Neo nazism
But for pretending to be a “victim” for so long , “we have never colonized anyone” and immediately invading Poland and Iraq
Poland doesn’t even have to do with either country and their people were happy with the disgusting crimes they did there
Labour aristocrats are still workers. Living in the imperial core doesn't mean you automatically become a bougie.
Yeah, seriously. By the standard he's using, I am more of a labour aristocrat because I actually live in the imperial core. I'm still a communist though.
Writing off children as your enemy is pretty fucking disgusting on top of that. That's what fascists do. That's what Isreal does to justify bombing innocent palistinian children.
I am a Palestinian and I live in Palestine ,not in the west
Maybe I would consider them part of”proletariat” if their immigration policy wasn’t to literally shoot any illegal immigrants
What’s disgusting is praising an act of a shitty Imperialist state like Poland
I'm not praising their intentions. I am laughing at them because as the imperial apparatus crumbles, these children will grow to resent the system which raised them. They are sowing the seeds of their own destruction.
With that I refuse to engage with you further on this. From the very start you spoke in a hostile manner. I understand your anger, but you need to chill and not assume these children are going to grow up to be your enemy, even if that's what their government has in mind.
Have a good day.
You have a good day too
As the other person said, I guess I'm just not as optimistic based on what I know about 2020s Poland. I hope to be proven wrong though!