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You kept showing small scale cooperatives, then large scale digital cooperative functions, none of which proved the existence of large scale industrial cooperatives.
Either way, I take the Marxist stance, that the way forward is full public ownership and democratization, so that all of humanity can work together along a common plan, not via competition. Mastering Capital will be Humanity's real first step into a new historic era.
I showed it via other means. Large scale industrial cooperatives are not here yet.
Considering you didn’t even know this was a stance yesterday, or a foundation of anarchism. I suggest you get back to reading. The agora is the natural organisation for humans.
You did not, in fact, show large scale industrial production done in a horizontalist, cooperative manner. You have not convinced me that I should leaern about Agorism to begin with.
I'd maybe start with some Tolstoy or Mutualism to ease yourself in ;)
The lack of fully scaled examples doesn’t negate the validity of cooperative production, it underscores the need for innovation and persistence. The systems you critique are still maturing, but their potential reflects a historic shift, much like the early failures of capitalism eventually gave way to dominant industrial systems. To dismiss these efforts outright is to overlook humanity's capacity for ingenuity and reinvention.
Progress is impossible without change, and those who cannot change their minds cannot change anything.