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I saw a post that talked about racism towards people and when I talked about it the response I got was very heated and a person even called lemmy.world a community of 'hitlerites'

I have been around for a week or so and this is my first time seeing such explicit vulgar reaction towards another community, is this a one-off or should I block hexbear?

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 170 points 1 week ago (26 children)

TLDR: they are right-wingers pretending to be left wing

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 68 points 1 week ago (24 children)

I love this image. Something that always confused me is that they are communist, but support russia? An extremely far right government?

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Authoritarians like authoritarian regimes. They'll perform extreme mental gymnastics to reconcile their preconceived notions with reality, like the tankies that declare China to be socialist. Also, most of them see the US as the Great Satan that is responsible for any and all evil in the world. Therefore anybody who opposes the Great Satan must be good.

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[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 76 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Hexbear, lemmygrad.ml and lemmy.ml are the "Tankie Triad".

Hexbear is the worst most extreme of them and lemmy.ml is the least which is why they've managed to avoid getting defederated from world (either that or because they're like the third largest instance behind only .world and SJW)

Hexbear is pretty widely defederated

[–] Pipster@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

A lot of .ml users and communities are there just because it was the only big instance much earlier on. I'm in no way a tankie but still use .ml a lot (a community I run is on there) because it was the first one I made and i'm too lazy to look into new instances or switch.

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[–] DosDude@retrolemmy.com 69 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I would block hexbear. I've done it server-wide. They are mostly very loud trolls pretending to be communists. Some could be actual communists, but I don't buy anyone actually wanting to be in such a toxic environment and believe what they claim to believe.

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[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 64 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

Hexbear, lemmygrad and (in great part) lemmy.ml are tankie instances.

They basically deny any crimes of Stalin, Mao etc…

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[–] kaprap@leminal.space 46 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I'm sorry if I sound tone deaf I am new to Lemmy .~.

[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Welcome to lemmy! For the most part lemmy is nice place to be. You will still see the occasional crazy though. Defiantly not something you see all the time. If you find a user, community or instance popping off a bunch of crazy the best thing to do is block them. You won't be missing anything without them.

[–] Libb@jlai.lu 20 points 1 week ago

Welcome and there is zero need to apologize. Some people (and group of them) can be a real pain. Once you have learned how to filter them out, it's a nice place with nice people. There is no shame in blocking them, a bit like I would not let someone enter my home so they shout their nonsense into my ears, or make their mess on the carpet.

Once again, welcome ;)

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[–] archonet@lemy.lol 39 points 1 week ago (11 children)

block hexbear, lemmygrad, and lemmy.ml. And any user named "UniversalMonk" on any instance. You'll thank me later.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 week ago

I'd probably be more selective about blocking users from lemmy.ml, but I'm a bit biased in the question given the server I chose when I joined Lemmy

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (13 children)

Note: being on Lemmy for about a year, I didn't live through the early days of this place. Here's what I can recollect, as neutrally given as possible.

TL;DR The recent conflicts between two politically different groups on Lemmy have radicalized many people, and many Hexbear residents in particular. Unless you are to discuss the far-left ideas and are very radical about disadvantaged groups, you are safe to block it.

Hexbear is a far-left (as in actually communist) anti-discrimination community, initially more of a safe haven to promote equality and foster a healthy and welcoming place for leftists to come together.

With core developers of Lemmy also being far-left, Hexbear naturally fitted the landscape along with the official Lemmy.ml, heavy far-left Lemmygrad.ml and others.

As time went on, however, all sorts of left-leaning and apolitical folks, not just far-left, came to the platform, filling other instances like Lemmy.world (now the most populated of them all), sh.itjust.works and many others.

As a result, Lemmy has two groups of people with radically different political views: one is a group of more or less organized far-left, and the other is everyone else, most commonly liberals. This distinction has caused a lot of conflicts and heated discussions based on political adherence.

Most notable case is latest US elections. The far left side generally called not to vote Democrat as Biden has failed to deliver on many of his promises and empowered Israel to commit war crimes in Palestine, while the liberal audience called to vote Democrat to not let Republicans take the lead, which may arguably lead to an even worse outcome than unaccountable Dems can make.

This divide has raised a lot of mutual hostility, brigading, and uncivil behavior, which has radicalized many on both sides of the conflict, the consequences of which you have got to experience.

What to do with that is up to you to decide. Hexbear is very politically uniform and very political overall, so if you're not here to discuss communism, you won't lose much and will gain additional peace of mind.

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[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'll do you one better, why is Hexbear??

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 31 points 1 week ago

Wow, I was wondering why I hadn't blocked a single hexbear or lemmy.ml user here: my instance did it for me! I've had multiple accounts on multiple servers and consistently had to block hexbear users until finally blocking hexbear outright. It's been a much better experience then.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (36 children)

Hexbear.net is a Left-Unity instance populated mainly by Marxists and Anarchists. They generally don't get along with Lemmy.world, whose admins defederated from the major Marxist-aligned instances.

Whether you block Hexbear is up to you, I enjoy my time there a lot but it's also because I'm a Marxist. The ones saying they are "pretending" to be Leftist never seem to be able to explain why a large group of people would all ironically have theory reading groups and ironically support trans rights for years, even before federating with anyone else. What would they have to gain?

If I were you, I'd ask on an instance actually federated with them. You'll get different perspectives than you will here, which is always the case when it comes to controversial topics like Marxism, where opinion varies greatly from instance to instance.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The issue with hexbear isn’t Marxism or anarchism or communism, it’s apologism for violent authoritarian regimes to the point of insisting on an “alternative facts” version of “history”.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

You should block hexbear

[–] Whateley@lemm.ee 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's a tankie instance. You're not missing anything important or reality-based by blocking it. You should also block lemmy.ml.

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[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 26 points 1 week ago (55 children)

Oh another one of these

Short answer:

"What if 4chan was communist instead of neonazi"

Similar level of assholety and low post quality. Better politics. Overall don't bother, not worth it.

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[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hexbear is a different instance where its users are basically a group of hard communism supporters. If you disliked their behavior, feel free to block their instance.

[–] Foni@lemm.ee 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They are not only hard communists, they have 0 interest in propagating their ideas, they only insult and despise everyone who is not 100% in agreement with them. In the best case, and I don't think it is, it is an endogamous community only for themselves, the opposite of what a federated social network is

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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 20 points 1 week ago

I'm sorry u had to experience these extremists. Block the instance and forget about them.

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