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[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

No one thinks Putin does anything out of the goodness of his heart. It is nonetheless beneficial for him to win, both for the people of Donbas and for multipolarity. Beyond that, he will surely give the Azovites a harder time than Zelensky is.

[-] Tastysnack@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is nonetheless beneficial for him to win, both for the people of Donbas and for multipolarity. Beyond that, he will surely give the Azovites a harder time than Zelensky is.

I agree but maybe I'm immature or too must of a lib myself but I struggle with the needless death of any nato-cool manufactured conflict because it just feels so fucking wasteful and yeah its probably a bit naive of me but I just wish the peace talks actually happened to stop it.

Like yeah Ukraine and a lot of Eastern Europe has problems with nazism due to post soviet anti communist propaganda and material conditions at the time influencing it as well as spotty histories with nazi collaboration Ukraine more than the rest.

I dunno. To categorise myself in the revolution (lmao) I'd be the girl who'd shoot nazis no issue but I'd be crying about why they couldn't just get over it and be based lefties so that I didn't have to waste them lmao. I'm a coward I guess.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wish peace talks succeeded too. I don't like the war, I just think one winner is a better outcome than the other, and it's not the one who consistently undermined the peace talks.

There's nothing cowardly about having compassion, the war is a ridiculous waste of human life. I am simply saying that there are ways of rating outcomes beyond the (correctly prioritized) criteria of "is there a war or not?"

Edit: ps it wasn't just a post Soviet issue. Look up Operation Bloodstone

[-] Tastysnack@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah and tbh I can't see a Ukrainian win doing anything to help anyone but the fascists in charge of both Ukraine and NATO and I hate that that is probably the most sensible take.

Okies I'll have a gander 🫡

[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Edit: ps it wasn’t just a post Soviet issue. Look up Operation Bloodstone

To anyone reading: also check out operation aerodynamic.

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