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Of course I don’t condemn Hamas (hexbear.net)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by star_wraith@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

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And you know who I also don’t condemn?

The IRA

The Viet Minh

John Brown

Haitian slaves who revolted

Native American fighters

Black Panthers

National Liberation Front (Algeria)

Nelson Mandela

The 26th of July Movement

Every one of them were called “terrorists” or something equivalent at some point. Now think about who’s on the opposite of this list. Apartied South Africa, slavers, settlers, Zionists, the US government… There is only one moral and just side to be on and it’s not even a discussion.

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[-] birdcat@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I see where you're going but I actually really don't see HAMAS as a legit liberation movement, what they do is terrorism and I don't know anything anymore. and I think it doesn't matter.

protest nonviolent = be called a terrorist, continue living under apartheid , get murdered, tortured, terrorized and abused daily.

protest violent = be called a terrorist and continue living under apartheid and being murdered , tortured, terrorized and abused daily.

protest with terrorist tactics = be called a terrorist, face genocide.

this whole mess fucks me up so much, I don't know how to live anymore. I know terrible things happen all the time and the world looks away, but this time it is different. I lost my will lo live on this planet. what is to be gained to be on the 'correct side', when humanity as a whole is failing and failing and failing again.

edit; hey, thanks for the replies, i'm sorry, i lack the energy to respond; as i said, i dont know anything and think it's all irrelevant.

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

FYI, it makes a lot more sense to ditch the “terrorism” framing. Paraphrasing a news mega poster, the jet plane pilot bombing civilians is never called a terrorist, it’s a definition exclusively used against insurgent resistance.

Are Hamas a militant Islamic fundamentalist group? Now that’s true, and that’s worth having reservations about personally endorsing. However, at this point in time, the united front of Palestinian resistance is unified in support of armed struggle against occupation (a tactic that is, incidentally, legal under international law), and Hamas is part of that front.

Nobody is required to endorse all tactics and ideologies found within the Palestinian resistance. A way to frame it that may bring you peace is that the only way to gain ultimate freedom for their people is with violence. As you yourself recognize, the path of negotiation (Oslo) and peaceful protests (the Marches of Return) have only led to further encroachment and oppression.

So while it is tough to see innocents caught in the crossfire, there’s no such thing as halfway liberation. There is only the boot on the neck of the Palestinians, until there is enough combined force to lift it off