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[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 77 points 9 months ago (6 children)

The most obvious thing a year ago would be for the DNC to pick a new candidate and let Biden take the fall for starting WW3. I honestly don’t know what they are thinking by doing the unpopular thing yet still running Biden.

Either Biden is forcing it, or they are surprised that support for Israel would be this weak.

[–] Posadas@hexbear.net 64 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Easier time fundraising under a trump presidency

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 45 points 9 months ago

DNC staffers brainstorming fundraising email drafts as we speak

"We are now under one of the MOST TYRANNICAL leaders in WORLD HISTORY"

[–] ziggurter@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

And they still get all the policy they wanted, and they get to shrug their shoulders and smugly say "guess you should've voted harder, kid".

[–] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 56 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Both of the parties are more comfortable being the opposition when they don't actually have to do anything and can collect donations while telling people they need to vote harder.

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I always figured you can grift more when actually in power compared to fundraising like chumps in the offseason.

The amount that industry lobbyists will pay to get a government contract or whatever makes donations look petty.

But I have no sense of the actual numbers for any of this

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 29 points 9 months ago

The difference is, the lobbyists expect returns on their money. People getting emails about STOPPING TYRANNY are donating on a 100% vibes basis and will accept "shucks orange man stopped us" instead of concrete actions

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago

Most political money doesn’t come from scared Pearl clutching Liberals, most of it comes from corporations and lobbies. Those corporations and lobbies buy favor with winners, not losers. Less seats and less power means less money.

[–] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think the genocide in Palestine is hurting them more than they realized. And Ukraine - that’s become pretty unpopular but Biden keeps pushing forward.

But I think inflation has really been what’s hurting him the most. I hear about it a lot from apolitical folks I know IRL and they weren’t mentioning it a year ago. Biden’s little cheerleaders on Reddit can talk all day about how the rate of inflation might be going down, but damn near everyone knows they’re paying a lot more for things while their income hasn’t kept up.

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago

Yes but if you remove the price of groceries, housing and gas then inflation is TOTALLY under control! maybe-later-honey

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

maybe-later-honey: "What are you talking about? Have you seen the surge in the prices of my housing investment portfolio? Biden has been GREAT for shareholders! You've been investing in real estate, right?"

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think they're just running on inertia. It seems to me that Dems have done the "means tested [insert popular policy]" or "vague and neglible motion toward [popular policy]" (Infrastructure bill for example) for so long that they've gotten used to less than bare minimum being enough. It seems as though popular sentiment has finally turned against that means tested bare minimum, and the dems dont understand it.

So they think the only reason Biden is losing is because they haven't educated voters on all the stuff Biden has done (looking at you, Some More News). Under that logic it wouldn't be smart to run someone other than biden - look at all the stuff he's done!

Every election they also triangulate their position to be whatever the republicans had last election - There's votes to be won there! At some point that moves them so far away from the leftist base that the dems gotten used to relying on and being to take for granted. At some point there isn't a logical argument for that leftist base for why they should vote for Dems instead of republicans. Biden ran on being the "harm reduction candidate" and that's not really visible. They used to have climate change to gesture towards, but we are now at the point where immediate action needs to be taken, but the Dems aren't willing. At that point it doesnt matter wether they "believe" in climate change or not, they've shown they do not care about it. Same goes for immigration policy and civil rights.
The Dems have gotten used to being able to ignore these sentiments, why would they change now? It is only now that the chickens are coming home to roost, why would we expect the Dems to be able to realise their predicament?

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

Their sole argument has been "we all know he sucks but he's the only option so you have to vote for him"

Introducing another option would just make it clear they were full of shit the entire time. Especially if they force in another shitlib everybody hates and try to say "actually this person you all despise is the ONLY possible option"