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[–] goog@hexbear.net 35 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Same energy as Verhoeven being bowled over with surprise that people didn't understand the subtext that people being able to be nude coeds without lasciviousness going on meant everyone was Hitler

The importance of specific ideology to fascism is rly overstated

[–] idkmybffjoeysteel@hexbear.net 33 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Couldn't understand what you were referring to so googled Verhoeven nude and discovered a reddit thread informing me that he filmed the shower scene in Starship Troopers while naked in order to get the actors to agree to being naked too

[–] goog@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Now go read George Jackson's Blood In My Eye for a real trip

[–] idkmybffjoeysteel@hexbear.net 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not following the connection here either but I did look it up and it looks like a great read, so looking forward to starting it soon.

[–] goog@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago

I think his analysis of fascism specifically is a lot more incisive than Verhoeven's. I have this problem of not being able to recommend things to people properly, because it feels like just restating the points made in a text, but in a lamer voice. lukacs-stare The Destruction of Reason is also straight fire. I really don't think the psychological profiling or media analysis of fascist figures or media is helpful. It's obscuring the historical emergence and progression of fascism in its different forms.

[–] Elon_Musk@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] goog@hexbear.net 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

No matter how many epic dystopia simulators people make, the same thing will happen.

[–] casskaydee@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've read your original comment like 6 times and it sounds like you're saying the most "in your face" clue that Starship was about fascism was that they were able to take coed showers without it being a big deal? But that doesn't make sense so I'm sure that's not it. But I can't figure out how to read it any other way

[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

It's not that they're taking coed showers without it being a big deal, it's that they were a bunch of naked young adults in their physical primes and the only thing they're horny for is war.