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I’ve never actually heard or seen someone honor such a request online or IRL, and it would sound ridiculously stilted if they did. Where is Rumpelstiltskin's coat? Rumpelstiltskin must have left it at the bar. Will someone please text Rumpelstiltskin and let Rumpelstiltskin know?

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[–] kristina@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

a lot of people are undecided on pronouns or dont want to be identified as one gender or the other for security reasons. i figure some agender people might be interested in the idea too.

some trans people also dont like the idea of being pressured to state pronouns.

the main goal of having mandatory pronouns listed to each name on hexbear is so that trans people arent singled out as the only people with listed pronouns, making it harder for transphobes to target individual people. in the larger fediverse it also makes it obvious that we're all trans accepting commies which definitely makes people angry, and it is very funny.

[–] inasaba@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I misread this and was like "what the heck are state pronouns??"

[–] mustardman@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

state pronouns

bakunin-immortan

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

When the revolution comes, the state will enforce pronoun use and it will be beautiful. ussr-cry

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The more pronouns you have, the cooler you are. Sorry, I don't make the rulesshrug-outta-hecks

collecting pronouns like pokemon fr fr

[–] Jenniferr@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the default so I think it's way overrepresented here

[–] YearOfTheCommieDesktop@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

used to be you had to pick bu i think this is the case now yeah

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Should go back to that. Leave none as an option, but don't leave a default.

[–] YearOfTheCommieDesktop@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

agreed, it was just a dev oversight

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

It pissed off people with brainworms and made wreckers so much more obvious before federation happened. GOOD feature

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

I am no one oooaaaaaaauhhh

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

coupled with it being the default as mentioned, i think some people just adopt it as another layer of opsec

[–] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Best not to worry so much about it, I think.

Out of all the posts I've made on this site, I don't think I've ever used a pronoun to reference another user. I haven't noticed anyone use a pronoun to refer to me. It will probably just never come up, especially in real life.

But yeah, if the rare situation arises, just use the name.

[–] blight@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

the only recurring reason to use a pronoun for someone on a place like this is usually to talk about the original poster, who is already lovingly abbreviated "OP", shorter than most pronouns

I think it was included to assuage concerns of forcing pronouns on users. It's easy enough to use someone's name if you don't know different. Pronouns also don't tend to come up in first person conversation, it's only when referring to someone else that it causes grammatical issues

[–] Kaplya@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, it’s the default when you sign up and now you have to go back into your profile settings to change it.

IMO pronoun selection should have been included in the sign up page (and if I remember correctly, this was the case at some point before the federation?).

[–] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

ive gone back and forth between he/him, and none/use name and any/any because i dont care how people refer to me. I guess that might be problematic but im not real smart and im nothing but fucking problems. I left it at he/him because it is important to others, and im trying to be mindful of others.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I don’t especially care which pronouns people use to refer to me, either. I get misgendered over the phone and usually don’t bother correcting them.

[–] mustardman@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why do people refer to your in third person over the phone? With me it's usually "you"

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mustardman@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

You got me there, sorry

[–] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

Not caring about what pronouns people use for you is not problematic. You don't need to present specific pronouns to make others happy. Just need to respect that other people want to be described by them, which you do.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I confuse the opps by picking a new gender to display every time I make an account

[–] Venus@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Stop using your real name then Mr. Gosling.

[–] a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's pretty straightfoward.

[–] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Venus@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net was very clear. You are not to refer to her by any pronouns otherwise y'all will get upset. I have no problem honoring its wishes.

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it does sound stilted IRL and people are probably going to default to "they" in english anyway which is part of why i don't care enough irl even though genderless language is probably a better fit for me than "they" or some neopronoun.

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They isn't genderless? Can you maybe explain that to me, I'd always thought it was.

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

gender-neutral and genderless are slightly different.

[–] mustardman@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

It is. You use it if you don't know a person's sex or preferred pronouns.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wonder this but with love/loves and maybe a few others.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

i had met someone with love/loves pronouns irl and it took every fiber of my being to avoid inflecting a scottish accent

was a pretty fun pronoun to use though, i liked it

A lot of those happened to be specific requests by particular users at the time pronouns were being added. There was a user who went by doe/deer and doe got deer pronouns added at deer request.

[–] captcha@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dont you dare refer to me in the third person.

[–] KillSlaveOwners@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

I think captcha means "Don't you dare refer to captcha in the third person"

[–] fuckahaha@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Does it ever seem stilted to you when people refer to those posters? Because I haven't noticed that so it seems to me like a non-issue