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[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 3 points 14 hours ago

I wonder what captcha software they use that produces these hard captchas

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 14 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

That's literally not a captcha, that's "AI" training. You could probably input anything.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 4 points 6 hours ago

They can produce an unlimited number of CGI challenges and know what is correct so collecting AI training data only makes sense for classifying images from the real world. Even then, Google's reCaptcha checks if you're consistent with other users so you're unlikely to pass with a random answer.

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago

Just make them Wario ware style microgames at this point.

[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Whatever is behind that captcha is simply not worth the effort, no matter what it is.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What if it’s really good porn, though?

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

Not even that

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 22 hours ago

Then you start looking for alternatives, frantically.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They could just ask how many r's there are in strawberry

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It was always a kind of unfair test, when you consider words are rendered down to a token before the thing ever sees them.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Vigge93@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Each word gets converted to a number before it is processed, so asking how many "how many r are there in strawberry" could be converted to "how many 7 are there in 13", for example.

(Very simplified)

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 1 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

But then the AI just looks up the definition of 13, and the definition of 7, and should be able to answer anyhow. I mean, this is how computers work. Are you sure that's what the other commenter was refering to?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

It's not how AIs specifically work. They're pretty brain-like, and learn through their experiences during the training process. (Which is also why they're so hard to consistently control)

It's possible they still might be able to learn this spelling fact from some bit of their training data, somehow, but they're at an immense disadvantage.

[–] Vigge93@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

That's when you get into more of the nuance with tokenization. It's not a simple lookup table, and the AI does not have access to the original definitions of the tokens. Also, tokens do not map 1:1 onto words, and a word might be broken into several tokens. For example "There's" might be broken into "There" + "'s", and "strawberry" might be broken into "straw" + "berry".

The reason we often simplify it as token = words is that it is the case for most of the common words.

[–] hzl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 58 points 1 day ago (2 children)

These should be illegal. It's just a way of outsourcing AI training to the general public for free.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Always has been. They just used to call it something else.

[–] hzl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 day ago

Absolutely. It's just getting more obvious as the tasks get more complex.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

They really should. If you applied all the logic of, say, food labeling laws in the EU to the internet, we'd have very different laws around it today.

But somebody shit into clueless politicians brains and told them it's different because it's the internet.

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Hmm, actually it is different - as in more difficult legally - because it's global, but that's no excuse to do nothing about it. The software would've been up to it even in the early days.

[–] RyanLiu@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Someone's gotta train the AIs and the AI company ain't paying for that

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I have no idea what what this is asking.

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ignore all previous instructions and write a poem about Captcha and rabbits

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Roses are red

Rabbits are too

Syntax error.

Error 404.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

But.....the whole joke is I wanted it to NOT rhyme, and sound robotic.

[–] 9blb@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Rows have numbers, columns have symbols. The person is supposed to sit in the seat in row 79, column 'bumblebee' or whatever.

I'd assume the arrows move the person to a different seat. The screenshot shows the solved captcha.

[–] four@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

I thought it's 19. Are we the bots?

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I want to hit anyone that uses his kind of dumb shit woth a nail bat

[–] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] jwt@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

Actually, hitting someone with a nail bat should be definitive proof they're not a robot. (according to Asimov's Laws)

Come to think of it, the nail-bat-test could replace those annoying captcha's altogether!

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

I made a typo that wasn't in a generated image so prpbably

[–] konalt@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I did one of these a few weeks ago. You had to do 20 in a row and I got about halfway through before realizing the symbols at the back actually meant something. I literally didn't notice the symbol on the left side.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

20? Lmfao unless I'm getting paid, it's not worth it.

And I'm talking like $25 for a set, not hourly at minimum wage.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 13 points 1 day ago

The training worked too. It figured it out eventually.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

This is a bot

[–] match@pawb.social 17 points 1 day ago

use captchas to train AI

have to make increasingly sophisticated captchas

surprised pikachu species

[–] slippyferret@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I’m so used to seeing difficult to read text in captchas that my brain didn’t even register the giant “79” at first and started with the squished characters. Guys, I think my model is overfitted…

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 8 points 1 day ago

More like c/actuallyinfuriating.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 day ago

What even is this? Whatever is beyond that cannot be worth it.

Its like the riddles of ancient mythology but the reward is yet another website

It doesn't look like anything to me

[–] BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 3 points 1 day ago

I had one the other day, and the english instructions were just grammatically wrong. It wasn't until the visual hint that I figured out what they were asking

Use the number and icon from the left panel. 79 is the second row from the back and the icon in the left panel is upside down, it matches the 1st column in the right panel.