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[–] gwilikers@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Its literally only ever been a class war.

[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 72 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Look, I’m probably considered a normie neoshitlib by hexbear standards. But 100% I wish, in the US, we’d drop this culture war bullshit and adopt class struggle instead. Even if I’m not personally ready to embrace full-on tankie Stalinism or whatever, I see the need for this.

Just simple stuff, like collective bargaining, should be back on the table in a big way. When productivity goes way up, but wages don’t increase at a similar clip, that’s a big problem. Nothing too radical here.

Like, the working-class people who live in the same red state I live in (and who are mostly Trumpy), most of them have, for example, never actually met a transgender person, and most likely never will. But all of them can benefit from an increased standard of living won by clawing back taxes from the 1% of the 1% of the super-duper wealthy. The fact that political talking heads who target these working class people focus on the former, and never the latter, says everything.

And, lo and behold, when material conditions improve and working-class people aren’t always teetering on the brink of poverty, they suddenly feel less shit-scared overall, and start feeling a little more liberal- and open-minded about these cultural issues. Imagine that.

It’s the economy, stupid.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 75 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Good comment.

Even if I’m not personally ready to embrace full-on tankie Stalinism or whatever

I look forwards to where you're at in 3-5 years.

[–] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 37 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Also trans if history is any guide to people who post here.

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Posting on hexbear without being trans

so-far

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago

popuko-fist wear the cute socks

[–] Finger@hexbear.net 64 points 3 days ago

Even if I’m not personally ready to embrace full-on tankie Stalinism or whatever

no more half measures walter

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 50 points 3 days ago

You get a meow-petted for this take

[–] ephemeral@hexbear.net 37 points 2 days ago

most of them have, for example, never actually met a transgender person, and most likely never will

they very well may have, but that person is in the closet because it's unsafe to be openly trans, especially in very conservative places

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 40 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It’s the economy, stupid.

astronaut-2 "it's all about the economy?"

astronaut-1 "always has been"

[–] Moss@hexbear.net 33 points 2 days ago

I appreciate you reaching out to us even if you think we're insane communists (which is true). That's what solidarity is all about

[–] ANarcoSnowPlow@hexbear.net 30 points 2 days ago

If you are like me and grew up in the heart of empire, you will find that the amount of things that we were not told or simply lied to about is mystifying.

When assessing any reaction you have to a particular piece of historical information or if you see a headline and think "well that makes sense from a geopolitical perspective" take a moment and consider the root of those feelings or the source of the conflicting information.

If you are anything like me, you'll find yourself wondering what the point of the lies or omissions is, why would they lie about these body counts? Why would they downplay the role of the Soviet Union in these world changing efforts?

It sounds overly simplistic, but just asking the question: "could this make a rich person slightly uncomfortable in any way at all" pretty much always gives you the answer.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 36 points 3 days ago

Like, the working-class people who live in the same red state I live in (and who are mostly Trumpy), most of them have, for example, never actually met a transgender person, and most likely never will.

That's how it always is lmao. Whenever I hear a transphobe describe what they think trans people are like, it's like listening to someone from an alternate universe.

[–] Andrzej3K@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

When productivity goes way up, but wages don’t increase at a similar clip, that’s a big problem. Nothing too radical here.

The thing is that what you're saying is actually incredibly radical if one follows the implications i.e. what it would take to get any of the things you want

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"And, lo and behold, when material conditions improve and working-class people aren’t always teetering on the brink of poverty, they suddenly feel less shit-scared overall, and start feeling a little more liberal- and open-minded about these cultural issues. Imagine that."

Funny how that works huh? Then you how its constantly repeated that working towards this is too radical but bombing sovereign nations somehow isn't.

[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago

"Babe, don't replace the culture war with class war, you're so beautiful, please babe ..."

[–] miz@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago

I want for her what she wants for Palestinian children

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 30 points 3 days ago

https://archive.is/8A02b

That woman is a right demon by the way. Don't look at her profile on the times website