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Budget: Military Complex > CERN
Long term value to citizens: CERN > Miltary Complex
All historical CERN expenses combined are a tiny fraction of the yearly expenses of the combined EU miltary
But particles don't make my dick feel big
Even quarks aren't that small.
They call me quark cause I'm always down to top and up to bottom and I'm charmingly strange. Also I'm very very small
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US Congress: Audit NASA > Audit the Pentagon
EU: Audit CERN > Audit Luxemborg/Malta/~~UK~~
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Guys, the trick is to get it partially built and then cancel funding. Then scientists will never trust you to fund anything ever again, and you get to act like science is a waste of money while you're spending ridiculous sums on fighter jets.
Yes, I am still bitter about Waxahatchie.
Having the corpse of the Supercollider Superconductor in my backyard growing up (not literally) makes me wonder what could have been if the US wasn’t so shortsighted.
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He's a great video documentary about it by Bobby Broccoli if you want information and have two hours.
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This is cheaper than two super carriers.
Yeah, but how many brown children can it kill?
If you ask the scientists in my local Facebook group, it could kill all of them. That is, the ones not already killed by vaccines and 5G.
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I was kind of thinking that $22 billion really doesn’t seem like that much money for a project like this.
The feds give the states more than $16b per year to build and run shitty, custom made IT systems for their Medicaid programs. It's basically a subsidy to IT companies. There are thousands of examples like this, where spending money on fundamental science is clearly a better investment.
This fucks, way better use of 22 billion dollars than usual
But we could kill kids in the middle east somewhere for that money!
Physics class: "Imagine a perfectly spherical cow moving on a frictionless surface..."
IDF physics class: "Imagine a perfectly spherical bomb moving towards a frictionless Palestinian hospital..."
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Remember when people were worried about these killing us all by creating a black hole that swallows the Earth?
Can this one just hurry up and do that please?
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I'd rather spend 22 billion on this than in Israel or more weapons of war
We have wasted way more money on way stupider projects. Would love to see this built rather than the military getting even more money.
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i hope someday we construct a collider that spans the entire circumference of the earth. But we'd probably have to build one that spans the circumference of the moon first, and then maybe mars, since the oceans are going to be a bit of a doozie to work around that we don't have the technology for, whereas the interior of a collider is supposed to be evacuated, so, the moon almost kinda already handles that for us. heat might be an issue of course, but if we can figure out thermal radiator panels that can dump the heat straight into space, maybe we could pull it off...
mars would address the heat issues, but those dust storms are no joke and the dust itself is microscopic toxic/caustic razors and it'll try to get in everywhere and ruin fine instruments it touches. Moon dust is also really bad but there's no wind to kick it up on the moon obviously...
but damn. DAMN. imagine the fucking science we could get done with a LUNAR-SCALE PARTICLE COLLIDER!!!
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Fun fact, they were going to build one in the US crossing the borders of LA, TX, AR. They even dug out the damn hole, but they shit canned the whole project so now we're just left with a random giant circular hole underground.
Edited AK to AR. That would have been a bit excessive.
Not quite circular, they only got 26% of the tunnel dug. Still, 23 km is quite a long tunnel to leave sitting empty
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I think I saw this in an anime once. Something to do with a big Philosopher Stone or something.
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Imagine if only 1/10 of all countries ~~GDP~~ gouvernement spending went to scientists and the patent bullshit didn't exist ? We'd be mining asteroids and sipping coffee on Mars.
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Mfw this pipe dream costs 22 billion and we just gave Israel 105 billion to keep genociding
I'd rather spend money on science than killing innocent people.
How about one that goes around the circumference of the Earth? That would be boss.
Just go full Dyson Ring and have one in space around the sun, can even use all the surface area to power it with solar panels.
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When I look at the inability to fund big science projects like this, I'm reminded of the most fictional thing to ever happen in a science fiction movie.
The film? Contact.
They build a giant portal machine thing.
Gets blowed up by terrorists.
But that's okay, because they've got another one!
What?
Yep!
"Why build one when you can build two for twice the price?"
FALSE. SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF FAILURE. ABORT.
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STOP ACCELERATING PARTICLES! Years of research and no use found for particles any smaller than SAND!
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