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Motherfuckers created a rule about how pointing out that overpopulation myths are ecofascistic lobbying is actually "bad faith" somehow so now every post, no matter what it is about, full of "this is why billions must die" bullshit.

There's 500k subscribers btw.

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[–] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 84 points 5 months ago (3 children)

That sub used to be part of the "reddit left" with a decent overlap with latestagecapitalism etc. Bernie era used to be a good time to "educate" people there about socialism, even if just pointing out that collapse is capitalism's fault.

But given the massive overlapping userbase a lot of those old users moved on, as you know the reddit "left" is a shadow now(thats being generous), so this is just another example of the overall trend of the site. Every criticism of capitalism/US is "political" therefore confined within blue vs red MAGA now.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 50 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I was totally a subscriber back then!

They used to actually moderate against ecofash tendencies iirc

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[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 28 points 5 months ago

Anybody left of Clinton and a lot of people probablly slightly to her right correctly realized reddit wad a blighted place or got banned for saying dems aren't going to save us.

Fash has spread by like 50% over what it used to be in pretty much every subreddit putting some fo them at about 149%.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago

All of the legitimate, principled left on Reddit has been stamped out. All that's left are the Vaushite types, and unabashed libs. The more decent subs are gonna get banned sooner or later and they know it. Even the subs for the good podcasts are in starvation mode.

[–] halfpipe@hexbear.net 70 points 5 months ago (2 children)

pre-covid, It used to be a fairly chill place for people who had reached the "acceptance" stage of grief to look at graphs of ice sheet coverage and talk about maybe learning to grow potatoes.

I hadn't checked it in years, but it looks like the depressed climate scientists have been replaced by full blown survivalists and scared normies who think that collapse will be something fast, like a disaster movie, instead of the ongoing grind of people watching prices going up as wages stay the same, needing to hang on to clothing longer, no longer being able to see a doctor, or knowing their children will probably be unable to buy homes and start their own families.

[–] RoabeArt@hexbear.net 48 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Lots of fashies do worry about that stuff too, but they blame it on "socialism" and "wokeness", and have a murder boner for anyone who's to the left of Trump.

It's like the shit at Boeing. Instead of recognizing its problems as the end result of decades of the company putting profit ahead of safety and lobbying for deregulation, the chuds would rather blame diversity hiring.

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[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 66 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

It's scary how many people say shit like "there are just too many people."

Like mother fucker the number ain't the problem, over production of shitty food and plastic, and inefficient city planning are.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 50 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Also it'd be far more utilitarian to wipe out the west if we're discussing Malthusian bullshit

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 33 points 5 months ago

This is always my stance: yes, you're right, there are too many americans. We must adopt the 0 child policy.

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[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 40 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Generally found asking people if they're one of the surplus ones when they say this gets them to shut up.

Not that it changes their mind but they generally have enough self awareness to j9t stay "no I mean a bu ch of other people should die" or if they do say they're a mask off fascist and you know talking to them is a waste of time

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[–] kristina@hexbear.net 58 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

if it makes you feel better theyre way less active than here, this seems to be a recent turn in their moderation, not indicative of what 500k people who probably dont look at reddit anymore believe

[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 34 points 5 months ago

I would bet the original mod team was wiped by the reddit-logo admins last summer.

[–] CptKrkIsClmbngThMntn@hexbear.net 56 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's so stupid because there's such a simple gotchya response. You think there are too many people for the resources we have, and some need to go one way or another? Then it makes sense to start with the people that use the most resources, right?

In fact we probably don't even need to get rid of that many - let's just off the 5000 or so richest people on the planet, expropriate their stuff, and that will free up far more fuel, land, water, energy, money, whatever than you could possibly hope to get from letting millions in the global south perish.

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[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 30 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Humans are a K-selected species. That means when we reach our carrying capacity we just reproduce less, we don't have a ton of people die as a result. Overpopulation has always been a non issue.

[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 32 points 5 months ago

um actually the ethnicities I personally dislike are R-selected.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 27 points 5 months ago (7 children)

This post makes me think a shitredditsays community might be a good idea.

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