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Is shitjustworks the worst server on Lemmy? (lemmy.ml)
submitted 5 months ago by electric_nan@lemmy.ml to c/askchapo@hexbear.net
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I just got a comment deleted and my account banned from noncredibledefense@shitjustworks (or however they parse that out). It was a shitty meme fantasizing about Japan getting to do more murdering in China, in the event of a war over Taiwan. I got called a tankie and banned for questioning whether Japan had any appetite for a war with China, and that I thought S Korea would be kept out of the conflict by the threat from N Korea.

Friends, I did not glorify communism, nor did I take any position on the disposition of Taiwan. Basically my sin seems to have been pointing out the "non-credibility" of the meme.

Anyway, I just didn't know where else to post about this (can't even message the mod that banned me!). I know hexbears shun that whole server, so I guess I'm really finding out why.

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[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 68 points 5 months ago

Noncredibledefense is from Reddit and has a very particular set of bizarre brainworms that generally boil down to bootlicking NATO. As far as communities federated with .ml, it's the worst by far. Be glad they banned you, block it and pretend it doesn't exist, everyone on there is way too deep into whatever it is they're into to ever listen to reason and there is no value in understanding them.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 34 points 5 months ago

Noncredibledefense

They're the NATO bootlickers that were too bootlick-y for CredibleDefence, the original NATO bootlicking sub. I look forward to them turning into lemons as Western militaries take L after L in Ukraine and the Red Sea.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago

Woah. I did not know they were kicked out of another sub.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

There was a time where "credible" defence used to hide its bootlicking behind a veneer of academic rigor. Of course, this was the type of academic rigor where a US study of Russian capabilities was considered more reliable than a Russian report on its capabilities because the Russians can't be trusted.

Iirc correctly people got banned for completely insane bootlicking like saying that a Leopard 2could solo the entire Russian Army or whatever and those ones went to found noncredible defense to shitpost.

Of course nowadays the Leopard stan is working at NATO advising the Ukrainian MOD, so the two subs are completely indistinguishable.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 28 points 5 months ago

Honestly, that's what I'd like to do. I don't need to be seeing shit so fucked up that I'm compelled to comment on it, only to find I get deleted for even mild dissent. I hid the post, I'll have to figure out how to block the server.

[-] footfaults@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

I think you can block servers in your profile settings

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago

Thank you, I figured it out :)

[-] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 56 points 5 months ago

Yes; the same way we Communists can sniff out Nazis with their disingenuous arguements, Nazis are able to generally sniff out Communists with their inability to completely go along with racist rhetoric. Hexbear bans Nazis because of their repugnant ideology, ShitJustWorks bans Communists because of their "repugnant ideology".

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 45 points 5 months ago

I'm not even really a communist though? Like, don't get me wrong I sympathize pretty hard with communists, but I'm not reading all those books (seriously). I organize mostly with anarchists because I know a bunch of cool ones around here doing cool shit. It really seems like they just did not like any interruption to their brainwashing circlejerk.

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 61 points 5 months ago

Anything to the left of the state department is a tankie to a lot of people

[-] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 52 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Eh, from the perspective of communists it's which class you fight for the benefit of. They care about the benefit of the bourgeois class, you care about and work towards the benefit of the working class; thus by Lenin's system of classification you'd simply be a socialist of some stripe. So, yeah, you might not be a communist but we're working together so who gaf

[-] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 32 points 5 months ago

Like, don't get me wrong I sympathize pretty hard with communists

Congrats, in the eyes of right-wingers you're now a communist. They don't differentiate between left-wingers just like we don't really differentiate between "conservatives" and "fascists".

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 27 points 5 months ago

Like, don't get me wrong I sympathize pretty hard with communists, but I'm not reading all those books (seriously). I organize mostly with anarchists because I know a bunch of cool ones around here doing cool shit.

Someone who works and organizes for the benefit of the working class is infinitely more productive than someone who just sits around absorbing increasingly esoteric snippets of Marxist lore.

[-] Finger@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago

I'm not even really a communist

no more half measures walter

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago

No one is simply born a communist shitposter. But as you live among us you will learn our ways until you, too, casually drop a "stalin shouldn't have stopped at berlin" joke at a family dinner.

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

I'm not even really a communist

Do better

[-] Barx@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

Read all those books and I'll give you a comradely pat on the back and a red star.

[-] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 53 points 5 months ago

noncredibledefense from what I gather is a fascist subreddit that now has a new branch. Shitjustworks was defederated from here a while ago.

[-] BobDole@hexbear.net 48 points 5 months ago

is shitsjust.fash the worst server on Lemmy?

Yes, although world gives them a run for their money.

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 40 points 5 months ago

Their entire shitty instance name is a play on le SJW. Of course it's going to be full of shitty reactionaries.

[-] the_itsb@hexbear.net 16 points 5 months ago

😔 I thought it was a meme reference, and now I feel like a real dingdong 🤦

I need adult supervision

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

I also thought it was a tood reference.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago

Oh shit I didn't even notice that lmao

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 31 points 5 months ago

Noncredibledefense are cheerleaders of NATO violence, and "tankie" doesn't have muched fixed meaning beyond having views to the left of hitler. Beyond that i couldn't even guess what's going on over there.

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 29 points 5 months ago

There's always a worse lemmy server.

[-] Ciel@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 5 months ago

the worst most of us are still federated with.

there have been far worse instances, but everyone is long defederated from them.

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago

It's definitely in the bottom 5 of instances

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

Pretty sure Exploding Heads is the worst Lemmy server but Shit Just Works is definitely up there

[-] CARCOSA@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago

Exploding heads closed and reopened as hilarious -chaos

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Then Hilarious Chaos is the worst Lemmy server but Shit Just Works is definitely up there

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 5 months ago

They're hard-tied with dbzero(techbro capital bootlickers beyond programming.dev), lemmy.world, and lemm.ee(both flagrant nazi bars)

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

Doesn't dbzero run my instance and lemmygrad? Or am I mixing them up with someone else?

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 5 months ago

dbzero has nothing to do with lemmygrad.

[-] thoro@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago

Dessalines, the Lemmy dev, runs ML. dbzer0 only runs dbzer0

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago

Ah thank you for the clarification.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 6 points 5 months ago

Behold the glory of our fediverse. Your voice cannot be silenced.

[-] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 25 points 5 months ago

informationsecurity.domain-ass take

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 23 points 5 months ago

I mean, I just wanted to hear their justification at least. Anyway, I figured out how to block the whole instance so I won't inadvertently waste my time commenting on any of their fragile communities.

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

Noncredibledefense is a shithole, just block it

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