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in evil communist china, you can usually just walk to the subway because a stop is within a 10 minutes walk of basically any condo
its almost like they... planned things
Americans don't wanna walk ten minutes though lol
Americans don't know what's good for them. You gotta force them to do good things and then they'll change their mind. Yeah, it's authoritarian. 
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Much rather sit for an hour being traffic and screaming inside their boxes at all the other fuckers being traffic with them
even though its really fucking refreshing. sigh
It's fuckin hot out
honestly, maybe im old as fuck, but a very short walk outside even in extreme heat feels great on my bones and is refreshing.
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yeah obviously they should build the cities shitty and then later maybe consider rebuilding them good but actually do nothing because nimbys would complain
Meanwhile, I can't even walk to the exit of my hellhole suburbs in 10 minutes 
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Actually we're normal Lemmy
Totally agree. Isn't this one of the oldest instances? It doesn't really matter when it federated - that just means it had more time to get distilled into its own special version. But this is an OG strain - whatever else this is, this is Lemmy.
Edit - and I say this as a pretty new user to the instance. I wasn't here from the beginning, this is my take as an instance-hopping reddit refugee.
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Why do Americans hate paying tax for things that benefit the community so much?
to the grasping petit bourgeois, any need fulfilled by the state is a lost profit opportunity
At one point you could say taxation was balanced. People at the top paid more and people at the bottom got services. Almost immediately after WWII, the bourgeois started rolling back on the services. They really hit their stride in the 70s and just started gutting everything. It got worse in the 80s and the in the 90s, Democrats became just as bad as Republicans. In the 80s you also saw taxes being cut for the top despite increased spending on things that benefited the bourgeois. So the tax burden fell upon the lower class. They saw increases in taxes while seeing fewer services than ever. Plus the libertarian propaganda pumped into education didn't help. Privatization is always framed as more efficient and cheaper for the public. So the question becomes why tax me for something I'll never use and if it gets built it'll be shitty and cost too much over time?
I guess, to be more succinct, they don't view it as a benefit to the community. Just a cost to them.
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How is it that train tracks are an ominous tax expense but roads are just a naturally occurring feature?????¿??
I think libs are under the (false) impression that roads are both completely mandatory in society AND somehow cheaper to build and maintain than public transit. Per person moved public transit is significantly more efficient per dollar but libs just don't want to know stats when they don't agree with their worldview
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Tens of millions of people live in cities with passable subway systems in the US and have for like a hundred years. And small towns were connected with rail all over. This fantastical scenario was completely normal.
Liberals love describing basic public service concepts as if they're fantastical utopian fever dreams.
Things like free public transportation, or public zero-interest banks, or public grocers.
It's usually a "well that could never work" and refusal to elaborate on why. If it doesn't presently exist in America, it must be impossible and ridiculous, especially if there's no price barrier.
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Kind of crazy how these people just accepted public transport as a normal thing until like...3-4 years ago? Now suddenly trains and buses are driven by Lucifer himself apparently.
You just noticed it 3-4 years ago. It's been much longer.
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the people calling you unrealistic is infuriating. “how dare you suggest we improve society a little?!?!”
They literally cannot conceive of any solution which is not individualistic
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me, who was never convinced to join normal lemmy in the first place
Then build me a railroad track fucker.
Do libs really? Can't these libs just realize that we live in a car centric society AND that public transport is objectively better? 
"Hey we should start sanitising our wounds and setting broken bones instead of just letting them poke through the skin and smell funny."
"Then build me a hospital fucker"
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Are you implying that hexbear is "abnormal lemmy"? lol
Vanguard Lemmy
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Battery-electric trains suck outside of very specific circumstances. Any functioning rail operator should be able to build and maintain tracks with electric catenary.
They weren't even talking about battery electric trains, they were talking about battery electric personal automobiles
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The things that qualify for normal these days 
Had to do this just earlier this week. Got back by train at like midnight and I had to bike back to my appartment. I was really tired especially in my legs, so you'd think that would maybe be a bit annoying, but it was actually really refreshing. It was nice and quiet, and the air was cool. Definitely wouldn't have taken a car even if I had the option.
A railroad track fucker...
Like dragons fucking cars, but this time railroad tracks?
Y I K E S
A whole lot American view themselves as one brief windfall away from being a millionaire, and these are the ones who shape the dominant ideology. The core American ideology is shaped by white suburbs all gritting their teeth and fuming over their 6 figure incomes because all they want in life is to see their bank account reach that magical 7 digits, yet it never quite does. Every public good like transportation is interpreted as a barrier away from seeing that million dollars. Every business regulation is interpreted as a conspiracy to keep them down, every person walking by in the street is an interloper, every inch of public transportation is interpreted as an annoyance dedicated solely to interrupting their focus on their money.
Even the ones who reach the million don't become satisfied, because now they become aware of the strata even above them, the billionaires with 10+ digit bank statements. And then by the time they reach billionaire status, their brains have been hollowed out by their chase to power and influence they become desperately aware of their own mortality. They realize they aren't gods, but that doesn't stop them from trying.
If you live in America and you make less than $120,000 per year, in terms of the ideology you might as well be a wisp of smoke or a hypothetical thing to joke about.
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