What, did they not condemn Hamas or something? You're venture capitalists, you don't even care about the shit that you produce. How the fuck are you going to care about the creativity of the project?
This is what makes me think the "creative differences" were the execs putting their foot down on making a copaganda film, when the creatives probably had something else in mind.
spoiler for spider verse 2
Who wants to bet that the alternate earth Miles ends up on at the end of the film is just an uncomplicated hero-less "crime world".
Expecting big cringe in 2027
I think it could survive a delay. Spiderverse is the only piece of Sony superhero slop that people are interested in, and it managed to build up a massive audience on streaming during the delay between the first movie and the second one. The Post Malone / Spiderverse video from the first movie has more than two billion views on youtube.
The multiverse gimmick is getting so played out though.
That could be true. Maybe. But Spiderverse 1/2 movies were actually amazing. I trust the creative people that made them. I don't mind waiting, but distribution company executives interfering definitely makes me nervous...
Across the Spider-Verse was good, but it was an extremely part 1 of 2 movie. Who's even going to remember it by 2027?
Avatar 2 made 2 billion dollars lol
Avatar 1 had an ending.
Yeah Avatar was extremely self contained, as was Avatar 2. There are some loose plot points left dangling for the sequel but there's clear arcs and conclusions.
how in the fuck
the people love to see capitalists get wrecked by blue cat people and whales, thats how (thats not actually how)
Angry nerds, sad drunks, the chronically unemployed
So... me, I guess
Spoiler for Across the Spiderverse
I think that The Spot's reveal as the big villain of the series was pretty memorable
Across the Spiderverse
Spot isn't the big bad, Miguel is.
Maybe the movie was good; never saw it. Heard nice things about it.
That said, I'm old enough to have seen Spider-Man movies get reboot origin stories... then more reboot origin stories. I lost track, and apparently this movie is an origin story about a multiverse of origin stories. Is it against comic book movie rules in some cardinal way to have a character established and then continue adventures in follow-up movies instead of rebooting the fucking things over and over again?
You mean you don't want to hear about Uncle Ben dying in fifty thousand universes?
You mean you don't want to hear about Uncle Ben dying in fifty thousand universes?
Pretty much, no, I don't.
But what if...
This time...
Uncle Ben had a funny mustache?
Laughs in Starfield
Maybe you'd dislike it how I dislike it because it's a really shallow metaphor for people arguing over (meta)narrative canon with a million different post-modern variations on spider-man and barely develops any of the characters beyond a one-note depiction of the strained relationship Miles has with his parents now that he's regularly super heroing and showing Gwen has a bad relationship with her also-cop dad. Doesn't do anything new that the first move didn't do, really, especially in terms of visuals. It's setting up the idea of just making a million navel-gazing, self-involve meta-stories about the same thing (Spider-Man) over and over and over.
Yeah that doesn't sound like a good time to me, either.
Woosh
Where's the woosh? If it's @AndJusticeForAll@hexbear.net 's take versus, well, that, that isn't much of a contest.
People keep doing it and keep thinking the movie lampshading/narratively simulating this topic makes it more interesting. I. DO. NOT. CARE. ABOUT. COMIC. CANON. Possibly one of the least interesting ideas going right now, especially when marxists understand how most/all ideas are either enforced or produced socially that the idea of "who decides what's canon" is already a solved "problem". Neoliberal nerd dipshits are still puzzled at "which Spider-Man (event) is the real Spider-Man (event)" like infants batting at keys.
the first movie was mostly the origin story of spider-man's successor miles morales and had some multiverse elements, it was a good movie. the sequel was mostly set up for part 3 since it ended in a cliffhanger.
I did hear it was good, though I was really tired of other origin rehashes of Spider-Man, though I understand Miles Morales is a quite different origin (but still an origin story).
Cliffhangers are a fuck and in general I only watch cliffhanger movies if I'm absolutely sure they will get resolved.
imagine leaving a movie on a fucking cliffhanger
So when I was younger, I saw matrix reloaded and had my mind blown, so excited for revolutions because of the cliffhanger.
Then the third movie didn't deliver.
And I realized that ending on cliffhangers like that not only so rarely pays off (infinity war might have been the only one recently), it often colors your feelings/opinions of the incompleteb(but otherwise fun movie)
You can't say reloaded is a great movie because it defers so much resolution, but there's so much cool stuff (the car chase is a 11/10, the fight in the chateau is sick, lots of cool shit throughout).
It works with already storylined stuff like novel adaptations, because books are meant for that and it's generally one person with a vision. But if it's purely cinema, there's so many moving parts and people involved that will switch out between the two movies that it is much harder to properly have a tonally correct followup
The thing is, Infinity War felt like a complete film. They could have just stopped there since the ending was satisfying enough on its own.
In contrast, Spiderverse's "ending" was just an abrupt roll-credits in the middle of the movie. It doesn't feel anywhere close to a complete film on its own. It's more like if someone was talking and
everyone wants to be empire but forgets everything in empire gives the viewer a sense of closure and longing, even as there are plot threads left unresolved, the story of empire is resolved.
whats annoying is that this was originally ONE movie lol
Laughs in Halo franchise
Such is the fate of extended multiverses
Wouldn't be the first time it happened
2027
BRUH
I hope that gusano director got his ass reamed
I hope he desperately yearns for an ass reaming but no one will do it because they know he's a sex pest.
I still haven't watched Across the Spider-Verse because everyone said it ended on a huge cliffhanger and I decided I'd just wait until it was finished lol
Yeah, it felt like half of a movie. Just kinda ends abruptly. Which is a shame, because the rest of the movie was quite good but the ending takes it down a few notches. Should be remedied once the sequel/part 2 comes out, but for now that non-ending is a blight on an otherwise great film.
meh, i'm sick of superhero movies already.
and its the same superheroes over and over again, at least come up with new ones.
I genuinely don't mean to offend, but this is a dumb, puddle-deep criticism. You're allowed superhero fatigue, but this franchise is very different from Marvel movies, for example. It deals with loss, abuse of power, loyalty, introspection, self-doubt and many other complicated themes.
Writing it off because it's a Spider-Man movie is like saying "I don't like videogames", or "I'm sick of action movies". Again you're obviously entitled to your opinion, but the genre is too broad and these two movies have done more than enough to not make them cliches...
spiderman isnt as generic as action movies though. its a specific subgenre character done over and over again, but slightly different this time. i watched maybe 4 or 5 of them already before i stopped bothering.
its a story of loss and self doubt that was definetly enjoyable the first few times, but surely these studios can come up with even a new superhero?
scrapped...due to creative reasons
Was Spider-Punk too based?
It's a metaphor for capitalism
I bet someone forgot to pay their hosting bill or something silly and all of the folders for this movie were deleted by accident. "Creative differences" yeah right
i don't believe anything broken by someone (Jeff Sneider) who tweets something like
WHY 2027? I heard Sony SCRAPPED most of the movie and is redoing a lot of it. SUBSCRIBE so I can keep wining & dining sources and getting information out of them to bring back to you guys.
but anyways Sony historically has always fumbled their portion of the Spider-Man IP so it wouldn't be surprising if this IS the case - I just won't buy it until someone more reputable reports it lol
Good. Take it slow. Do it right
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