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[–] Chimbus@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Democrats use republicans as a cudgel to keep people in line while they do the most heinous, corrupt and horrible things. At some point you gotta stop being afraid of the beatings or you gotta admit you dont care about the rest of the world being destroyed by the US.

[–] CountryBreakfast@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah its just that if you suggest this people treat you like you are insane. People love to bring up privilege and revoke your "ally card" and whatnot as if third party voters and politically aware non-voters haven't heard it all for decades. The conversation is always so stale. It's so hard to convince people the election is a red herring. I can't even bring myself to judge people anywhere near as harshly based on the election because it just isn't that important.

[–] BobDole@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago
[–] Speaker@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

Who'd have guessed that a group calling itself "uncommitted" would lack follow through?

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

Change still possible with Democrats

8/10 as comedy but only 0/10 as policy.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Change is possible under Dems? What is your evidence for that?

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Simple, they're now openly pro border wall, openly pro genocide....

oh, you meant change for the better.

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah I’ll be honest after the last 4 years I am not convinced the Republicans are the bigger threat

Things have been demonstrably, measurably worse under Biden than Trump. Is that due to the republicans incompetence, rather than a difference in goals? Probably, but the fact remains, Biden has done more harm than Trump.

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

The Dems literally didn't change on their one demand lol

[–] CountryBreakfast@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago

I hear people say they think it pushes the country to the left somehow, even though when I point out all the recent Dem election wins, they just blame Republicans for sabatoging everything. In other words, they just don't pay attention and are deeply unserious but still have a moral stake somehow.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

This isn't the dunktank.

[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Honestly, any group that isn't openly and wholly Marxist-Lenninist should be assumed to be reactionary and will backstab what they believe. Only trust communists in politics.

[–] CountryBreakfast@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 month ago

All this does is invite people to use ML as bait to draw them through the gates of hell. There is no ideology you can call yourself that frees you from criticism.

I will say however, that MLs, whether they are ideologically agreeable or shakey, likely understand the stakes and will quickly reject a lot of bait your average liberal will take. Still, there are a number of things that can be used to create a pipeline that draws marxists to neoliberalism and we would do well to know we are not free from propaganda or the processes of capital. Workers have been used to advance empire and we can be certain this is not limited to a distant past.

[–] BashfulBob@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

will backstab what they believe

I mean, they're not endorsing anyone. Harris Dems are going to be the ones screaming "Backstabbed!"

Only trust communists in politics.

glances at InfraRed, the CPUSA, etc

Besides...

While Abandon Harris has yet to endorse one individual ahead of the presidential election, the group told MEE it is urging voters to back third-party candidates towards eventually "breaking the duopoly” of the US electoral system.

Literally what else are you asking from a bunch of electoralists? They're championing a boycott of the pro-genocide duopoly. Seems like that's as good as you're going to get from a voter advocacy organization.

[–] AvocadoVapelung@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago
[–] Sebrof@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago
[–] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Pathetic. They really are uncommitted.

If they can't stand against genocide they can fuck off