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That's it. That's the post. I can't stop making the connection to those songs. yea

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[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 40 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Many of them have also revealed themselves to be suffering from transphobic brain rot, like Twisted Sister, Kiss and Alice Cooper. The same guys who were genderbending as part of "glam rock" and wore make-up, feminine outfits, and "challenged gender norms", are now whining about trans people being a fad and parents allowing kids to freely express their gender identity. clown Boomers really are not okay.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised considering how that scene was rife with sexism and misogyny. Those things always seem to go hand in hand with transphobia. It's just fucking ironic how chuds are now embracing these dweebs because of their transphobia, while 40 years ago these same artists were considered satanic and a danger to children by reactionaries. pain

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 4 weeks ago

I mean it sucks, but it kinda makes sense in a twisted way that the cis guys who embraced gender-bending culture in order to be predatory are now worried that that's all the transgender movement is. Its all projection, like the homophobic in the closey religious types that turn out to be massive deviants.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 16 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

How can you mention transphobic brain rot but not include Aerosmith

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 16 points 4 weeks ago

Oh yeah, I forgot about them. yea

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 39 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Ted Nugent LITERALLY has a song called "Jailbait" and yet he's supposed to be saving the democrat sex trafficked children with Trump.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 25 points 4 weeks ago

"She's Only Seventeen" is another well known and horrible song from creeps.

[–] AmericaDeserved711@hexbear.net 30 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

many rock stars learned music to get attention from teenage girls. which is okay at first, because they were teenage boys. the problem is when they become adults and don't grow out of it, and fame+money makes it very easy for them to be predators. the entire music industry is designed to facilitate this behavior.

rock music has fallen out of the mainstream but we still see this with a lot of famous rappers for example (Diddy, Drake, etc)

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 15 points 4 weeks ago

rock music has fallen out of the mainstream

Wesley Willis rocks on in my heart, though. bunny-vibe

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 15 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (9 children)

I am not even that big of a fan of the Beatles (especially not John Lennon and his domestic violence enjoying) but as far as I know they didn't actually creep on any of their many, many teenage fans. Maybe I'm wrong there but it made me hope there was like one band I could remember the name of from the "classic rock" era that didn't have creeps in it.

[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 12 points 4 weeks ago

I thought about it for a few minutes, and the only band i could think of from that era that might not be full creeps was Blue Oyster Cult, but that's because I know basically nothing about the band member's private lives.

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[–] Babs@hexbear.net 24 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Motorhead had a song called "Jailbait" and uh...holy shit.

wtf cw:exactly what you thinkTeenage baby, you're a sweet young thing

Still tied to Mummy's apron strings

I don't even dare to ask your age

It's enough to know you're here backstage

You're jailbait

And I just can't wait

Jailbait baby, come on

One taste baby, all I need

My decision made at lightning speed

I don't even want to know your name

It's enough to know you feel the same

Jailbait

I just can't wait

Jailbait baby, get down

Hey!

Love that young stuff

Tell me baby, oh you look so fine

Send quivers up and down my spine

I don't care about our different ages

I'm an open book with well thumbed pages

Jailbait

I ain't too late

Jailbait baby, get down

Right now

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 21 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm never listening to Motorhead again.

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[–] dkr567@hexbear.net 18 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

I always found being very uncomfortable listening to Motorhead and I guess this really helped me explain that and glad I never liked them much because good lord is that fucking godawful.

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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 21 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh yes, especially some kinds of filmmakers: the "auteur" creeps that get special cultural license to be creeps for decades with no consequences as an assumed cost of doing business with them.

[–] someone@hexbear.net 10 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (6 children)

I'm just happy that Kubrick seems to not have been one of them. Even when adapting very dark stories where he could have tried to get away with "but that's the age of the characters in the original" he had the good sense to age-up troublingly-young characters. There's a particularly notorious scene in the original A Clockwork Orange novel that he handled perfectly in the adaptation. Anyone familiar with the movie knows the scene where Alex has a consensual threesome with these two adult women.

But in the original novel, they're both 10 years old and not consenting whatsoever.

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[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 22 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Listening to the song "My Sharona" jevil-bounce

noticing the lyrics and thinking about them for 1/16th of a second margot-disgust

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 9 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

On second thoughts, listen to Weird Al's"my bologna" instead?

[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 22 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

i worked at a place that had boomer rock on all the time and one song i hated was what's your name where the chorus is literally LITTLE GIRL WHAT'S YOUR NAME

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 19 points 4 weeks ago

FUCK that's gross, especially looking back. libertarian-alert

[–] Weedian@hexbear.net 12 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Then they died in a plane crash

[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 8 points 4 weeks ago

Happily ever after.

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[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 19 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Gary Puckett and the Union Gap.

The song is delivered from the point of view of a man who has become distressed upon finding out that the girl he is with, contrary to the first impression she had made upon him, is actually younger than the legal age of consent. He is asking her to leave before things go any further: "Get out of here / before I have the time / to change my mind / 'cause I'm afraid we'll go too far".

It reached #2 on the charts. #1 in the UK.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 11 points 4 weeks ago

Nonce Island stays noncing kombucha-disgust

[–] QuietCupcake@hexbear.net 17 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I was talking about this with a friend years ago how fucking common it was for the classic rockstars (mostly of previous generations to what we listened to, but sadly some more recent too) to be full on pedos. I did a little bit of reading on the subject and it is gut-churning. Not just how ubiquitous it was, but also how largely accepted it was (and continues to be), and also how severe so much of it was.

Content Warning on the rest of this comment from here on out. Gary Glitter is probably the most egregious and well known as far as like Epstein level offenses, you can look him up if you want the sickening details. Obvious huge CW if you do. There's another name that always comes up with this stuff that I'm hesitant to even mention because he was more of a nobody than a true rockstar and became famous more for his crimes and how extreme they were than for his music, though his band did have a following that he drew his victims from. NSFL kind of shit.

If we were to make a list, it might be easier to name the major classic rock stars that weren't creepers in some way. Like Mick Jagger and Jimmy Page "dating" the same 14 year old girl Lori Maddox (major CW here: common term for her was that she was a "baby groupie") at the same time, and like David Bowie was involved with her too somehow? The bassist for the Rolling Stones (Wyman) was 47 in a "relationship" with a 13 year old. The drummer for the Eagles was in legal trouble regarding a 16 year old. Then there's Pete Townsend of The Who getting caught paying with his credit card for CSAM but used the excuse that he was trying to catch the predators and do "research" regarding his own abuse. I don't know enough about that one, maybe he doesn't belong on the same list, but it seems pretty sus. People in the thread mentioning the "Little girl, what's your name?" lyrics and that's Lynard Skynard. And of course My Sharona. There's a bunch of songs I can't remember atm saying the same kind of thing. I think Iggy Pop also has some lyrics about some of his known underage fans. Stephen Tyler (Aerosmith) and fucking Ted Nugent both became "legal guardians" of underage girls for the reasons you are correctly assuming but wish you weren't. Jerry Lee Lewis famously married his 13 year old cousin. Elvis Presley and Priscilla was like 14. List goes on.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 18 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I was talking about this with a friend years ago how fucking common it was for the classic rockstars (mostly of previous generations to what we listened to, but sadly some more recent too) to be full on pedos. I did a little bit of reading on the subject and it is gut-churning. Not just how ubiquitous it was, but also how largely accepted it was (and continues to be), and also how severe so much of it was.

"Separate art from artist" mantra chanting isn't new, though it got reworded a few times. In my youth I was told that in "different times" (often "better times" according to not-as-old boomers around me!) that was normal and cool and good and "political correctness" (what is now called "DEI" and used to be called "woke" and before that "SJW") is the reason that they can't have as much "fun" as they used to, like when Playboy Magazine had articles where predatory old men described, openly, how much they wanted to violate child actresses of that current time. libertarian-alert

Your list of musicians that I didn't yet know were predators will take some time for me to sort through. Fuck's sake, even the Eagles...

[–] someone@hexbear.net 12 points 4 weeks ago

Fuck's sake, even the Eagles...

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[–] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 17 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

This is why I call my partner "babe", so people think I'm just calling them a pig.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It just makes the boomers whole "forever young" ethos all the more creepy. They really did become the generation that had a mid-life crisis that never ended and made it everyone's problem.

Oh yeah, and with all the shit about Diddy, Drake, Epstein, Mike Jeffries, (probably) Trump and Musk. How many of these creeps are our neighbors but the only thing that ultimately stopped them is the fact they know even they would be caught?

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 13 points 4 weeks ago

It just makes the boomers whole "forever young" ethos all the more creepy. They really did become the generation that had a mid-life crisis that never ended and made it everyone's problem.

I used to think "mid-life crisis" was an inevitability when I saw it presented on screens when I was a kid: that someday I'd be in my 40s and need to be in denial about it and have a convertible and a leisure suit and try to hit on women half my age.

That was just boomers telling on themselves. I'm well into my 40s and that didn't happen, not even in a "wearing neon and spiking my hair 80s style" way.

[–] MiraculousMM@hexbear.net 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

When you notice the sheer number of "classic rock" songs that are explicitly about creeping on children it's hard to go back. The stories about groups like Led Zeppelin are disturbing

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[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 16 points 4 weeks ago

Can't find it anymore but there was a short called like "every classic rock song before 1985" that went

Girl, you're 15 years old

And you're beautiful, and I'm

35

[–] red_stapler@hexbear.net 13 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I probably took more psychic damage from being bombarded by classic rock at the auto parts where I worked than I realize.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 10 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I used to just nod along to music played by boomers I was in the car with at the time and the more I look back the more fucked up so many of those songs were.

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Can’t blame you. Feel the same way when I hear “babygirl” in a song

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 4 weeks ago

It's very offputting to me too.

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 11 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Don’t listen to ‘je suis un rock star’ dawg

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I remember "je suis" being said by edgelords in reference to specific underaged anime characters for a while in the internet wild. libertarian-alert

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[–] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 9 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

And then I came of age listening to metalcore and deathcore. Lotta similar shit. Just SA and DV allegations/charges left and right. Warped Tour was a mistake. They knew and they didn’t do shit. Not to mention so many of the lyrics were about raging at your ex girlfriend or some similar implied relationship.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 7 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

"Woodstock 99" was a nightmare of utter fucking hogs being SV enjoyers and blatant misogynists, even outright attacking women on stage, too.

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[–] un_mask_me@hexbear.net 9 points 4 weeks ago

I immediately thought of Jethro Tull's Aqualung

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

One of the main arguments for why ”cancel culture” is bullshit is that all of this still gets played, even from people like Steven Tyler who we know for sure are pedos.

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[–] RION@hexbear.net 7 points 4 weeks ago

thinking about the joke with the manager from Big Time Rush where all his songs had "baby" in the title aware

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