this post was submitted on 14 Nov 2024
485 points (98.2% liked)

Memes

45649 readers
1497 users here now

Rules:

  1. Be civil and nice.
  2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 
all 33 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

You are a serf. removed, you live in Alsace. You are a peasant. You need to give your fuckin' lord the grain. Your fucking children, you've had 15 children. You've never taken a bath. You've literally never. washed. your. penis. You've never used toilet paper. Motherfucker, you have worms. You are dying. You've had 40 children, 3 of them are alive. 2 of them are child soldiers in the Duke's army.

removed, the greatest thing you can hope for is to die at the ripe old age of 36. You fucking can't read. You don't know what TV is. If you were transported into today, you would be the worst gamer of all time. You don't know shit. You literally probably don't even know what the direction 'left' is. I'm sure some Medieval guy is gonna get mad at me for this, removed I've been to the Renaissance Fair. I've eaten a large turkey wing, which the Juggalos call 'removed beaters', which I think is problematic but a funny thing to call them.

Motherfucker, you gotta recognize where you are, and then you gotta get past that. You gotta be unemotional. You can't sink into this hole. You live in the oubliette. Your job is to crawl up the ladder, motherfucker. You live in the HOLE. You're in the HOLE. You are a RAT. And the rat, when he's in the hole gets fucked. People only throw trash in the hole.

You need to eat a body. And you need to carry the plague. And you need to carry a plague around this whole world, that will change this whole fuckin world. And all your enemies will vomit black bile and will choke on blood and will grow boils and die. But only if you get together with your other RATS. And you come up with some kind of super plague, to fuckin end your enemies and... END THIS NIGHTMARE

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The dark cowboy rides again.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah but we gots fraydum!

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 35 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Marx's analysis of Capitalism and predictions of where it heads are proven more correct with the passage of time. The reason the Proletarian is exploited to a greater degree than the serf is due to the nature of commodity production. As the M-C-M' circuit, whereby M is an initial sum of money, C the commodity produced with M, and M' the greater sum of money after selling said commodity is the basis of Capitalist production, said process is incentivized to be maximized. In Feudalism, rent is extracted and the rest kept for subsistence, in Capitalism wages are set by cost of continued existence and replacement, moving up or down mostly by societal norms.

Question 8 : In what way does the proletarian differ from the serf?

Answer : The serf enjoys the possession and use of an instrument of production, a piece of land, in exchange for which he hands over a part of his product or performs labour. The proletarian works with the instruments of production of another for the account of this other, in exchange for a part of the product. The serf gives up, the proletarian receives. The serf has an assured existence, the proletarian has not. The serf is outside competition, the proletarian is in it. The serf frees himself either by running away to the town and there becoming a handicraftsman or by giving his landlord money instead of labour and products, thereby becoming a free tenant; or by driving his feudal lord away and himself becoming a proprietor, in short, by entering in one way or another into the owning class and into competition. The proletarian frees himself by abolishing competition, private property and all class differences.

-The Principles of Communism

The serfs did not have it better, of course. However, the nature of their production was limited to the low technological development of the time. With mass factories Capitalism was transitioned to, and now with complex development of production in the hands of massive, monopolist syndicates and cartels, we can move beyond Capitalism to Socialized prodiction, central planning and public ownership, far easier than ever before.

I highly recommend those interested to check out my Introductory Reading List on Marxism.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 hours ago

It's polyworking now, get with the times!

[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 53 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

We don't even get gruel, just Krusty brand imitation gruel. 9 out of 10 orphans can't tell the difference.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 3 hours ago

I live for that imitation gruel. It's what keeps me going with producing Gucci wallets for the streets of Hong Kong.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 18 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

We better at least get off for a national dictator day out of this whole debacle.

I could do a trump day celebration. I'll paint my face orange and cuss out my family. Win win win.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Just banks and federal employees.

You will of course be required to be in the office that day.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Well hopefully Susan will bring in some dictator shaped cupcakes at least.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 3 hours ago

Nah, it would be more like Dictator Beatings.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

EPA and revitalize auto industry is obviously a conflict of interest.

[–] Kilometers_OBrien@startrek.website -3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (4 children)

More dysentery also.. like a LOT more dysentery. So much so that people often believed their soul exists in their lower abdomen because when you feel pain there you die shortly after.

Wow that's a lot of dysentery.

Sorry your point lacks proper context based on reality.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

So you're not really a serf if you've got plumbing? The labor relationship with your employers isn't the issue?

[–] finderscult@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

That's really a western Europe thing and American thing. Even then no where near as much as you're suggesting, not for the last 10k years or so at least. Beer/wine taking over and replacing water drinking unironically eliminated most of that, and in other cultures sanitation prevented it. English serfs had a lot of dysentery though, since they were too stupid to use Roman infrastructure.

[–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 10 hours ago

Well we could argue your whole comment lacks connection to the original post

[–] TonoManza@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 8 hours ago

"Oh, you're mad that you have to work 12/7 to stay alive? Well, have you considered that peasants didn't have good healthcare?!? Hah, I bet you didn't... Wait, you can't afford healthcare either?...well, you'll suffer and die from a modern illness rather than shitting yourself so you still aren't allowed to complain! It's all perfect now!"

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You don't know how bad peasants actually had it.

[–] interrobang@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I usually take these post less as 'look how great peasants had it' and more 'look how much better we could have it'.

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world -2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't think that peasant economy was exploitative in the same way capitalism is. Peasants were largely farmers who grew food and provided the landowner with a percentage of their crop. They were integral to human survival and as far as I know the percentage taken by landowners was not comparable to the wealth extracted from workers today.

[–] whygohomie@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Ah, the good old days of serfdom when peasants were tied to the land/manor and its Lord in a slave-like state.

You see some wild shit on Lemmy apparently.

[–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Now we are tied to corporations and state as slave-likes

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 hours ago

Almost. We are proletarians working under late-stage Capitalism, where markets have largely coalesced into monopolist syndicates and cartels, and competition is rapidly dying out. The conditions are ripe for siezure, public ownership, and central planning, ie Socialism.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

You see wild shit on lemmy .world