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[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

Why? Literally every other head of state war criminal shrugs it off.

[–] Badland9085@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago

I know many will see this as a futile gesture but I’ll try to put out some reasonings that it’s may not be all that futile. The warrant may not do what it sets out to do, which is to put Netanyahu and Gallant in trial and prosecuted, but it will serve itself in other indirect ways.

It can be political ammunition in diplomatic talks. Nations in support of the Palestinians, many of which are small, can use this to gain some leverage against countries that give no shits about the ICC like the US, however little that is (though given we’re going to have Trump back in the WH, it’s basically pointless). It’s also useful as another ammo for them to back out of unfavorable deals, citing national opinion on the genocide in Gaza.

Of course, this potentially benefits the ICC as well, though it can certainly go very wrong. Western nations may very well rally behind Israel and pull support off the ICC, further crippling it. So this is hopefully a well-calculated move from the ICC after reading the tea leaves. It can benefit the ICC internationally as it has always been criticized to be pro-Western, and this may help to ease some of their reputation with non-Western nations.

In a world where cooperation and trust between nations is slowly crumbling, and I may just be trying to be optimistic here because hell knows if that cooperation was ever really a thing, this gesture, however overt, isn’t something we shouldn’t welcome.

[–] gi1242@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

lol no. if commiting genocide doesn't bother you, then people calling you names won't either.

he might even brag about it

[–] psychothumbs@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

The thing that's tougher to shrug off is that he now has a rotating list of countries where depending on who's in power he cannot visit without being arrested.

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Maybe if he had chosen a much more chill defence minister...

(Just a bad joke about the similar faces of David Carradine and Gallant.)

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago

Ummm I don't think he cares even a little

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Pretty sure it's going to be as hard for him to shrug off as a backpack with a quick release on the straps that activates by shrugging.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 3 hours ago

As long as US protects him, there is literally zero practical consequences for this shit stain

[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

You can have a pretty good life as a former war criminal.

Just like General Butt Naked. A warlord who met the Devil and then God.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Accused? Isn't he officially a war criminal now?

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I think that would require conviction.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

That should be an accused, convicted crimminal

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 67 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Other felons probably won't mind.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 16 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

They sure won’t, and they’re the only ones that can stop him.

Neither the US nor Israel ratified the Rome Statute, so they are not held accountable by the ICC.

[–] coyootje@lemmy.world 15 points 6 hours ago

Most of the EU is part of it though so if they stick to it they'd have to arrest him if he enters their countries. Although I already saw France was calling it "a complex case" and saying that they weren't sure whether they'd actually arrest him if he visited...

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 34 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

this assumes he gives a shit

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

He might consider it a badge of honor instead.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 21 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah because criminals being proud of their crimes totally isn’t a thing. Especially when the law isn’t ever enforced.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

George W. Bush comes to mind.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 15 points 6 hours ago

Maybe he and Bibi can paint cute pictures together while Michelle Obama gives them candy

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

He wasn't charged with any crimes by the ICC.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 7 hours ago

And yet I'm sure he'll do his best. Authoritarians are like that.

he will be long dead while israel still enjoys all the land hes stolen for them.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

It's hard to shrug something off if you aren't at all trying to shrug something off.

[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 6 points 7 hours ago

Now do Biden

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago

I am sure he will suffer through.