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Hey folks, it's my fourth time listening to this album in as many days and I'm looking for recommendations for tracks/albums like it. I'm looking for punk, energetic but also melodic, and packed with righteous anger. Bonus points if it's in a language other than English.

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[โ€“] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Show me the body (especially the album dog whistle) is a NY hardcore/punk/noise band that might scratch that itch. It's super melodic but has energy and righteous anger in spades

[โ€“] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

If you (anyone) have the chance to see them live, do it. Crazy show and stage presence, and loudly support Palestine

[โ€“] 21Gramsci@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So far most of the stuff I've checked out is not exactly up my alley, but some of it surprised me in a great way. The beat from It Burns for example is great, love that mangled bassline!

[โ€“] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Part of that might be that I meant to say they aren't super melodic haha. My bad! They're definitely an acquired taste, especially their newer stuff. Their older work is more typical hardcore with a noisy edge. They get really odd and avant garde with trouble the water and corpus II

In order to still not answer your question but offer something that is actually melodic I'd suggest some post-metal. Agalloch and cult of luna are incredible bands with some great melodies throughout their entire body. Best of luck on your search!

[โ€“] 21Gramsci@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

I just checked out Agalloch and I vibe with it a lot! Will check out Cult Of Luna as well, cheers <3

[โ€“] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Strike Anywhere sounds a lot like older Rise Against. Unfortunately, they also use the cringe three arrows thing as their logo.

As an aside, Appeal to Reason was an album I was disappointed in when it came out, but as I've gotten older I've really grown to appreciate the increased melody.

Unfortunately, they also use the cringe three arrows thing as their logo.

I feel like I read somewhere that the third arrow symbolized either Anti-communism or anti-capitalism, depending on what wing of the SPD was using it.

At any rate, I bought a two-pack of lefty patches, one being a hammer and sickle, and the other being a Three arrows. I tend to keep the three arrows one on my bag as a kind of dogwhistle to fellow leftists.

Regardless of is a official meaning, as used by the Iron Front, it's become a general anti-fascist symbol that's more covert than the anti-flag logo that chuds all know now.

[โ€“] 21Gramsci@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

Wow nice, I'm really liking Exit English so far. It's a bit rhythmically messy for my taste but the energy is really on point. Cheers!

[โ€“] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Idk that my tastes will fit your specific Rise Against niche (tho I love them) but I can definitely offer the righteous anger.

Lately I've been listening to A LOT of :

The Coup

Dead Prez

Dead Pioneers - this is probably closest to Rise Against

Sprinkled with:

Tom Morello's The Nightwatchman

Modena City Ramblers

Rebel Diaz

Kneecap

Chumbawumba

This comment here has a bunch of other bands to check out too. As I mentioned, I'm big fan of Bella Ciao and Which Side Are You On, so if you look for people who do covers of those songs you'll typically find some pretty based, revolutionary stuff. https://hexbear.net/comment/5592490

[โ€“] 21Gramsci@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Holy shit I was NOT expecting to find the Modena City Ramblers in this thread, but having grown up on them it's such a heartwarming surprise. <3

I know some of the other names and I'll go through the rest when I have the time. Thanks!

[โ€“] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Lol, they were one of my Bella Ciao finds! stalin-approval

Welcome! Hope you find something that interests you!

One last addition I just remembered. I've not looked into these folks yet but they're a Burmese punk group I found a while ago. Might be up your alley. The Rebel Riot and Cacerolazo.

https://youtu.be/Ddm5yNcuHPg

[โ€“] 21Gramsci@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I have so much love for that Burmese Bella Ciao cover... I think I actually heard it first a while ago after the It Could Happen Here podcast series on Myanmar sent me down a bunch of rabbit holes. It has the energy and cultural context that this song actually should have, fuck all the Netflix TV show co-opted EDM remixes that people know Bella Ciao for these days. Thanks for bringing this specific memory back.

heart-sickle

[โ€“] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

fuck all the Netflix TV show co-opted EDM remixes that people know Bella Ciao for these days.

LMAO, while I totally get what you mean, I'm actually a big fan of them. data-laughing I subscribe to an idea others here have dubbed Treat Entryism, in that I think trying to engage people at an intellectual level with an idea that bucks the cultural hegemony they're immersed in 24/7 is a losing battle. So, I find leftist /radical slop (including music ๐Ÿ’) that I can use to introduce brain de-wormers. Money Heist is one the best imo, especially Bella Ciao, as that lets me talk about one of my favorite historical figures, Lucio Urtubia. anarkitty

[โ€“] 21Gramsci@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok to be fair the story of Lucio rocks, thanks for sharing that. I didn't know that was the inspiration for Money Heist.

I would usually agree with you about the Treat Entryism. I'm not an ideological purist and I actually like "cultural remixes" in a general sense: pieces of media that reuse and recontextualise older cultural artifacts in a modern form. Bella Ciao though is the one cultural product I become conservative about, in my head it has too much significance to hear it taken out of context without cringing.

[โ€“] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I very much recommend pulling the thread on Lucio , it's fascinating stuff. My man was funding a significant chunk of leftist operations across the globe for like two decades or something. stalin-heart

As far as Money Heist goes, (for obvious reasons) I love heist stuff anyway, but Season 1 had a much more revolutionary edge to it that was blunted after Netflix got a hold of the show, unfortunately. The main mastermind of the heist had an anarchist bank robber father, iirc, which gives the first season a whole vibe of anti-establishment, 'is the government even legitimate?' type thought to it. Unrelated to the story of the show itself, Netflix has a documentary called Money Heist, The Phenomenon. Which, if you're into Cultural Hegemony, 21Gramsci, you'll probably find it interesting. It goes into the impact of the show across the globe, why they felt it resonated so well, and how it was literally inspiring bank robberies. IMO, every Leftist should be checking it out along with the Lucio doc.

Lol, I get ya. We all have things we want to protect. rat-salute

[โ€“] 21Gramsci@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Resetting the "days since being told to read theory" counter back to 0 once again... eviscerated

Jk, I read your old thread on Lucio that you linked, was that the one you're referring to or is there another? And if you have other resources on it beside the ones in the thread please do share!

About Money Heist, oof. I only watched the first season and a while ago too. I remember being kinda unimpressed because I felt like a lot of the plot conceits were pretty directly lifted from Inside Man, one of my favorite movies. The political content seemed pretty surface level to me back then, at least that's what I remember, but I might have missed stuff. Definitely interested in the documentary about it's impact though, that stuff is right up my alley as you can tell. gramsci-heh

[โ€“] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Resetting the "days since being told to read theory" counter back to 0 once again...

data-laughing more like history! There's that 2007 Lucio documentary at the bottom of my thread that's really good, and honestly just reading into stuff the CNT was doing to fight against Franco is enlightening. I don't have anything specific to recommend in that regard, but every time I run across Francisco Sabate's name, it's something amazing. Dude had a robin hood like reputation.

Well, now I need to watch Inside Man! Like I said, I'm into this sort of stuff, so it's possible I was reading more into it than they meant, but there's a definite drop off in revolutionary aspect in the final seasons.

spoilerThey kinda flat out disavow The Professor's revolutionary tendency and have him declare he's just doing it to fulfill his inner thief or something at the end.

btw, do you have any specific books to recommend on gramsci? I bought the first vol of buttigieg's Prison Notebooks translation, and uh it was too over my head, I didn't even know where to begin with it.

[โ€“] 21Gramsci@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm afraid I don't have much I can recommend, I had pretty much the same reaction as you with the writing I found both by and about him. Most of what I know about his philosophy is from either school or or other media that references him. I remember reading a good essay by the Wu Ming collective that talked about Gramsci, but I can't find it right now and idk if it there was a translation. If I manage to find it I'll let you know.

Unrelated to Gramsci, but Wu Ming wrote some great historical novels with an impressive amount of research behind them and an explicitly leftist perspective. Some good non-fiction commentary about Italian/European recent history as well. It's not all good, they have some bad takes here and there (don't read Clockwork Orange Duck), but I like most of their stuff. I'm reading Proletkult right now and even though I have mixed feelings about it it's still an interesting book. Most of their best work is translated.

[โ€“] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hmm, they sound interesting, I'll definitely add them to my list. Thanks! Is there a centralized place to download most of their works? I'm looking on their blog and not having much luck. Not a lot of the English on libgen either.

[โ€“] 21Gramsci@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hmmm good question. I don't know of any official repository, I can see a bunch of their most famous works in English on Anna's Archive though.

[โ€“] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

Ah, I'll check it out. Thanks!

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