GenZedong

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It is a sad day for the resistance in the Middle East. A US proxy has won yet again and their terrorist groups will destroy another country.

Feels like 1991 all over again. World historical tragedy occurring before our eyes. Please pay your respects to the martyrs who held out this long against Daesh, god have mercy on Syria

Can't wait for the liberals and western leftists to ignore the caste system that's gonna be implemented with a very specific type of Sunni Muslim on top. May be they can send sell construction slaves to the zios and gulf states. Gonna need a ton of bodies to build neom

this is really fucking bad

A major blow to the Axis of Resistance. Zionist forces are now advancing in Syria.

Israel will colonize and settle the south, Turkey will begin restoring the Ottoman empire in the north, and the US will continue occupying the east for oil, but at least people in Syria are now free to go around destroying Christmas trees. (I despise Christmas but still.)

How did this happen so suddenly? Did the Syrian army just desert their posts or they didn't have equipment or what?

Is this it? After all that's been done, after all those years of killing terrorists? After they were at the brink of defeat, just because Russia decided to play buddy buddy with fucking Turkey with some agreements and thus stopping the fighting when they could have been defeated for good years ago? Bashar is alive and well unlike Gaddafi so he can return eventually.

This will be worse than the peak days of ISIS, various terrorist groups will be literally killing each other and oppressing millions of people, Middle East is in the worst situation imaginable, next thing that will probably happen is that war will break out and Iran will annihilate zionist entity, but until then, it's hell for Middle East.

I felt this was going to happen yesterday with all that was going on. I didn't think it would happen this fast.

Guess no more Assad memes though as looks like in the end he was the one who had to go.

This shows how persistent the US can be though. People spent years joking about them failing to remove him and they just kept on plotting and doing their thing and sure enough Russia didn't want to expend their own treasury or people on fighting a war that is after all not along their borders or neighborhood. Because unlike the US they had no ambitions for strategic defeat.

However the US did. And the US will see this as a strategic defeat for Russia and press the advantage. These terrorists were assisted by, trained by and with Ukrainian fascist intelligence. They are going to turn Syria into a hub for training their pawns, for spreading extremism and destabilization across the region. As a way to blunt the belt and road, to cut it off from Africa. And these people will be taken further afield, they'll pop up in Africa to do US work against the AES Sahel states, they'll pop up in eastern Europe or Latin America or Asia and will be a continuing problem as they are hardened, experienced, trained fanatics and they are going to cause some trouble for all the multi-polar forces. Just as the US intended.

This is why the US should not be counted out until they're actually out. Everyone crowing about the US having egg on its face, taking an L in Ukraine and the whole world seeing the genocide in Palestine and then they just pull out this huge win. Turns out the material on the ground situation is what they've actually won while we've won some feel good points and some PR which does little.

I agree the zionists will annex part of Syria for greater "israel" do some war crimes and oppression there, try and drive people out. They and the western pawns in Syria could also turn their attention to Lebanon and punishing or ruining Hezbollah given the zionists already decapitated the leadership there.

It's like the 20th century. Things seemed to be going alright. Revolutions were popping off, there seemed to be a fervor with the original post-colonial movement for change and then in came the big bad USA with coups, color revolutions, dictators, extremist groups, etc, etc. They're playing the same playbook and I'm sorry to say I think outside of some of the core countries of BRICS+ such as China, Russia, DPRK, Vietnam most of their partners are fragile enough to be vulnerable to being destroyed by these kinds of overt tactics. When the dollar hegemony and economic coercion aren't enough alone it shows the US is not only willing but able to pull out the same kind of barbarity and intelligence-driven subterfuge to incapacitate and destroy enemies.

This is a major shift of the tides. If the west manages to pull off sending NATO troops into Ukraine and Putin blinks and accepts an armistice then I think they have the momentum again to stop or severely slow China, to stop or severely slow BRICS, to stop or severely slow the multi-polar world and buy themselves decades of life. Let us hope then Putin does not blink, that the west is inflicted in fact with a strategic loss in Ukraine. Though even that's not the end of the story. The west will as we've seen here try again for another color revolution in Ukraine in 5 years, 10 years. They will take their hardened Ukrainian Nazis and use them as their agents to destabilize key places, to kill people, to do all their dirty work they've somewhat backed off on since the end of history and their attempt to paint themselves as better than they ever were.

Even if Russia wins in Ukraine, they get all their objectives, the west is going to use Syria and those they evac from Ukraine to continue setting fires around Russia and also China, in Georgia, in Moldova, in some of the other central Asian republics perhaps.

And as we've seen the west profits immensely from the fact still no one wants to fuck with them. Iran doesn't, they're conserving their strength afraid they're next and perhaps simply not having the logistics to actually wield strength in Syria with the zionist regime there and the US and its regional pawns blocking them. Even Russia still acts this way, still thinks there is a way to be reasonable with these people. So who is there left? No USSR. Russia isn't that interventionist and even if they were they're bogged down in Ukraine and could be for years. China is out due to their stances. Iran feels pinned down. The US has retaken west Asia and with it probably destroyed China's hopes for a belt and road to Africa actually succeeding this decade.

This is in other words a very bad day for the Syrian people, for the Palestinian people, for the multi-polar order, for China, for Russia, for Iran.

My country's news is reporting about a prison that's being caputred at which the prisoners are being released. Makes me thing about the (I think) Czech president who released prisoners from a gulag only to find out they were filled with, you know, a lot of criminals lol.

A bleak day. This is two major Hamas allies taken out of the fight in less than a month. It's likely that Hamas will be looking for a ceasefire soon, especially if more blows like this happen.

This was an interesting take on the whole thing, and I think it's quite plausible. He basically argues that the west might be intentionally drawn into a trap in Syria. Incidentally, there is a RAND paper that warns against this exact scenario. It basically argues that putting Syria under stress is beneficial to the US, but there is a risk of over commitment.

Russia and Iran aren't stupid, and they likely saw that the west was going to flare up the conflict in Syria again. One option was to pour resources into Syria to fight off the jihadists. This would be long and protracted quagmire. The other options was simply to withdraw and let them take it. These groups all hate each other, and they're not a cohesive fighting force. They're already starting to fight each other just days after taking over, and it's only going to get worse.

The west wants to have a compliant regime in Syria and that requires using coercive methods that will inevitably breed resentment from these groups. This is basically what happened in both Iraq and Afghanistan where the insurgents ultimately turned on their masters.

On top of all that, Israel is now invading Syria in a big way, and they're unlikely to withdraw. It's only a matter of time till they start getting attacked, and this will force the west to keep pouring resources to prop them up. In effect, this flips the script on Syria. Instead of Russia and Iran being on the hook propping it up while the west can keep destabilizing it relatively cheaply. It is now the west that's stuck with a very volatile situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVMfckVQ7Hg

~~And I'm still over here hoping things get turned around. Syria hosts Russia's only port in the Mediterranean, as well as airfields, allowing Russia to project power into the Middle East and Africa. So far there have been no reports of Russia abandoning its bases (although some ships reportedly left).~~

~~The smart move for SAA would have been to retreat to a defensible position and then launch an insurgency against HTS. HTS is deemed a terrorist organisation and they do not enjoy the broad popular support like the Taliban do in Afghanistan, so they do not have the means for a protracted war or sustained conflict, meanwhile Russia can continue supplying SAA through the ports/airfields.~~

~~This would force the US/West to openly give support to people they have labeled terrorists, which would be a lose-lose for the US.~~

~~Putin said Russia isn't going to help SAA if they're not willing to fight for their country. Maybe I'm being naive, but I'm wondering if its a ploy to make SAA appear weak, Sun Tzu and all that.~~

~~Assad's family left weeks ago, so this wasn't such a surprise. Also, from what I've seen/read, the SAA didn't abandon equipment like the Afghan Army did when Taliban advanced. The SAA seems to have retreated with their vehicles, there is no sign of a rout. Remember, when Ukraine started pushing hard and fast on Kherson and Kharkov the Russians also abandoned their positions and retreated, giving up a lot of territory; Western media said it was over for Russia then.~~

~~The thought of Assad/Syria falling saddens me, but I'm not willing to give into doomerism yet.~~

Apparently it's over. Fucking sucks.

Still not giving into doomerisms though. HTS is a gang of thugs whose only "success" so far, that the Western media has been able to dig up, was them running Idlib "sort of, kind of okay" (and probably with Turkey's help) while recognising that they led a terror campaign against Kurds, Shia Muslims and anyone who opposed them. I don't think the people of Syria will accept HTS so easily. I could be wrong (again), but it gives me some hope that the HTS rule might be very short-lived.

Assad resigns. - Russian Foreign Ministry

https://www.reuters.com/world/russia-says-syrias-assad-has-left-country-given-orders-peaceful-power-handover-2024-12-08/

This event has given me depression for the time being.

Anyone else?

Welp, I guess this is it, after half a century of continuous pillaging, slaughtering, and raping of the Middle East both directly and indirectly, I guess the Empire truly wins this time.

This reminds me of when the Plurinational State of Bolivia suffered an antisocialist coup back in 2019.

Fuck...

German media is already talking about how this hopefully means that they can safely send Syrian refugees back.

A year ago everyone pretended to be extremely mad at how the AfD wanted to send people with migrant heritage back to where they came from but since then we've gone back to the standard racist programing.

I never expected the Syrian army to fall this quickly, but it didn't look good in the first place.

Back when they were fighting back, the bull of the fighting force that didn't come from Iran were formerly pretty active paramilitary groups that were incorporated into the Syrian army. After these fighter served full term in the army and got discharged, they joined up with other paramilitary or mercenaries groups, such as Hezbollah or Wagner group.

Now that practically every experience fighters on Assad's side are busy elsewhere, the entire forces on Assad's side are pretty much underequipped conscripted troops that have neither the skill, experiences, equipments, nor the morale close to what the previous generation of fighters processes. Now add the fact the rebel groups are unsubtly support by the Yank et.al., and...well, you can do the rest of the math yourself.

If so, it's a tragedy.

Sad and depressing.

i wonder who the puppet will be. Iraq had Ahmed Chalabi, Venezuela had Guaido, Georgia had Saakashvili, Ukraine has Zelensky.

To anyone living in Germany, Turkey etc. where there are a lot of Syrian refugees, is there a strong sense of Gusano syndrome among them? Are many of them preparing to return to Syria?

Did Russia betray Assad? The way the transfer of power happened so quickly, without resistance and no push back from Russia seems suspicious. Maybe Russia got sick of Assad?