cat boys
It kind of bothers me that a lot of us need them to be pure ethereal beings in the first place to believe they deserve to be treated well!
Well then it sounds like we agree more than I thought. I just think kids need to be treated more like humans with their own sense of dignity (however comically misapplied it is by them) than as similar to how we treat animals. (And as a vegan don't even get me started on that lmao). Edit: It's this idea that kids being selfish/mean/stupid sometimes then logically leads to needing to strictly control every aspect of their lives to prevent them from doing bad things and/or "turn them" into "better civilians" that I take issue with. Obviously some guard rails are needed but space to learn reality within those guard rails is important
I mean, i believe they can be/often are selfish, and it makes sense to me that that's a fairly common "default", but I don't really think that needs to be beat out of them. We do a lot of horrible things to kids to basically break them and I don't think that's remotely necessary to teach them empathy or kindness. Let alone strict scheduling that ignores the presence of other neurotypes or mental biases.
Like kids don't need to be yelled at or implicitly threatened with a lack of love to understand that they did something wrong, we treat kids as way dumber than they actually are. It makes sense kids will do tons of selfish and hurtful things if they don't know any better, but it doesn't follow that we then have to literally and/or metaphorically beat morality into their heads instead of guiding them towards their own understanding
And finally I never said that kids were "pure". But calling them inherently selfish and evil little monsters veers way too close to old reactionary rhetoric for it to be comfortable or OK. I think a good first step would be understanding that oftentimes "selfish" behaviors come from reasonable places. The idea that they need to be tamed and browbeaten is far more reactionary than the idea that they're pure little angels, anyways, because it leads to a lot of physical and mental harm done to kids that has been completely normalized.
These aren't animal-humans in need of taming, these are little humans in need of guidance to lead them to understand how their own inherent sense of morality they intuit from their surroundings connects to the world
this
Yeah I know we like to try to think of the parties as completely identical but we don't need to to acknowledge they're both horrible. We can even think the Republicans are worse while still realizing that Democrats are basically trying to scam us out of our own political power
how do we know these ads aren't ending up on FurAffinity or something
targeting the gay demographic
"DONALD TRUMP WILL TAKE AWAY YOUR TOPS"
used to teach kids from ages 10-17
that's like seven years at a minimum after they start being conditioned to BE selfish monsters, idk this seems like a more systemic issue than a biological 'kids need to be kept in line regardless of social structure' thing
in fact i think it's borderline reactionary. yeah kids are gross and selfish and shitty but who taught them to be that way? they had ten or more years of experience at that point. if people treat you as subhuman, not worthy of consultation, and inherently worthless and a drain of resources for ten years and you have no other experiences you'd be fucked up too (case in point: you/everyone here probably was fucked up until they experienced things other than being treated like that)
edit: read theory https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/toby-rollo-brian-davis-arthur-silber-no-against-adult-supremacy-vol-10
you're probably right to be annoyed, actually. but that isn't the kid's fault that they're doing stupid shit while they're learning. it's the fault of us underpaying and forcing teachers and child care workers to work too many hours simultaneously, because we don't treat them as valuable as they are. child care workers should be paid like degree holding medical doctors at minimum
In this manner, the child is prevented from developing a genuine, authentic sense of self. As he grows older, this deadening of his soul desensitizes the child to the pain of others. Eventually, the maturing adult will seek to express his repressed anger on external targets, since he has never been allowed to experience and express it in ways that would not be destructive. By such means, the cycle of violence is continued into another generation (using “violence” in the broadest sense). One of the additional consequences is that the adult, who has never developed an authentic self, can easily transfer his idealization of his parents to a new authority figure.
Whoops! We Made Ten Year Old Hitler!
naptimes bad so bedtimes good. simple logic
I mean, this is way way better than their previous argument lmao
wtf i thought this was just a me being bad at social thing, other people experience this?