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[–] Huldra@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think strictly speaking while Pontius Pilate orders the crucifixion, there's also supposed to be several points where Jesus could have been saved, like when Barabbas a violent criminal is pardoned instead of him at the request of the people.

My gut feeling on the whole reasoning is that partially it's the attitude of like, Jesus is supposed to be of their people but they betray him, while the Romans are acting as occupiers naturally would. And also the Romans are forgiven by reason of adopting and spreading Christianity, while Jewish people remain Jewish.

That's basically the logic that is used for this strain of antisemitism.

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not quite so, Pilate "hands over" Jesus to the Jews to be crucified. He never sentences him and "washes his hands" of the matter, signifying the abandonment of secular authority. The Jews (here really just a faction of the Jews, particularly the Sadducees) have already admitted that they can't kill him under the Jewish law but do so anyway. So both are guilty and the old law has been abandoned, represented by the curtain in the temple ripping open on Jesus' death.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

The Sadducees were just Roman collaborators who did what they were told by their Roman masters, so in the end, it was the Romans who executed Jesus.