You know Iran and Israel are ruled by Conservatives? Just wanted to make sure you don't mix up the people who actually commit atrocities with the ones who make zynical jokes.

So Liberals are held at a higher morale? Or because the "Liberal" Biden Government is supporting Israel?

In Europe, Liberals are as crazy as Conservatives, what both need is a pinch of Socialism to make it work. Moderation of power and equal rights has nothing to do with the political views, it should be the standard.

Liberals in Europe say "The market will regulate itself" which is anti social corpo bs. Conservatives in Europe say "We need to go back to the Atomic Family and reliable (=outdated) systems" .... from my perspective I don't care, as long as there is Healthcare, Social Security, Equal Rights and Public Housing/Infrastructure, they can do whatever they want (within the borders of their own country).

[–] starkillerfish@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What you just said is completely incoherent

[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Then I don't get your point of view...

[–] hypercracker@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The point of view that you can't just copy & paste the labels "liberal" and "conservative" to within the political context of every country on earth and have it make any sense at all?

[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Well the label "Communist" is what Americans would give me. Simply because I said I want everyone to life a life worth living.

But I didn't realize this sub is a echo chamber. It feels surreal reading from people defending Iran, while simultaneously supporting LGBTQ...

Idk what sense it makes for them or you, but for me, I'm out.

[–] hypercracker@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

So you’re one of those liberals who supports bombing countries if they haven’t reached the same level of development in LGBTQ rights as most western countries did only within the past few decades?

Have you considered that tying your support of imperialism to LGBTQ rights makes it worse for the LGBTQ people in countries being bombed, not only because they are being bombed, but because it’s easy for their regressive leaders to then point to LGBTQ rights as some western thing that should be hated?

[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

Lol. Western liberals and their appeals to LGTB rights in order to justify genocides and invasions (which involve killing LGBT people, but I guess you are fine with killing LGBT people).

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

what both need is a pinch of Socialism to make it work.

Thee recommended dose is a spoonful

stalin-comical-spoon

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 months ago

you're unto NOTHING

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

OP is talking about American libs, not whatever the heck Europeans are supposed to be.

[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yes okay, got it. I'm always confused by those (country specific) labels.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

I hope the Islamic Republic of Iran targets the Netherlands with hypersonic missiles.

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why are you running defense for murderous settlers

[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Where did I say that? You are hysteric... literally the first sentence.