this post was submitted on 27 Oct 2024
164 points (86.3% liked)

chapotraphouse

13528 readers
839 users here now

Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.

No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer

Gossip posts go in c/gossip. Don't post low-hanging fruit here after it gets removed from c/gossip

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
 

How many dead Palestinian kids will it take for you to change your vote?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] tryptamine@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Did you have a point? I understand the societal construct.

I also understand that sometimes you have to play the game long enough to understand how to dismantle it.

Not because figuring out the game is hard, but because you have to get enough people to on your side to make sure you succeed.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 29 points 2 weeks ago

You say "you have to", but what actual reason to believe this do you have besides that some other condescending prick told you so? When I look at historical liberation movements (and I can't say I know all of them, granted), they never got by on entryism and, at their most normative, still conformed to Marx's advice of establishing an independent political party, though often they were much more underground than that, often branded terrorists, etc. They certainly didn't fucking campaign for their own opposition like you're supposedly doing now (though in reality I don't think you really are in opposition to Harris) and generating more of a popular mandate for the establishment.

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Did you have a point? I understand the societal construct.

I've said this a few times to you already, but Saying Things Doesn't Make Them True. You pretty obviously don't understand it.

I also understand that sometimes you have to play the game long enough to understand how to dismantle it.

You've tried this for more than 50 years. It does not work.
You claim to understand this, but then do not understand why people might vote for a third party candidate, when that candidate cannot win this election.
You are just barely sapient, and that's being generous.