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[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

fuck me do they have a racist name for hot cocoa?

[–] abc@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Like most European things - yes.

It's a Christmas market drink - hot chocolate with rum in it. It's called Lumumba - named after Patrice Lumumba, the first Prime Minister of the Congo who...was assassinated by Belgium (well, by separatists technically but the Belgians were the ones who dug him up and dissolved his body in acid & had his bones crushed and scattered) in 1961 because they wanted so desperately to hold onto their colony which had broken away from their control. The US, UK, and Belgium were all very happy about it because at the time during the Congo Crisis, after the UN refused to step in and help, he'd been appealing to the Soviets which made him a dirty communist so why not.

Eisenhower hated him, Dulles was all for assassination, MI6 supposedly had a hand in facilitating his execution. And yet still in 2024, a scant 4 years after Belgium finally repatriated what they had left of his remains & possessions back to his family in the Congo, Germans still go to Christmas market and ask for a lumumba and go who-did-this when you point out that they're basically celebrating colonialism in their own little way.

Many such cases across Europe and Belgium/Germany especially. Mohrenkopf and Negerkuss ARE NOT racist names for chocolate covered marshmallows, yes that means "Moor's Head" and "Negro's Kiss" but they're NOT racist names; stop trying to destroy tradition by getting them renamed!!!

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

And every city named Matamoros definitely isn't calling for genocide!

[–] OptimusSubprime@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Many such cases across Europe and Belgium/Germany especially. Mohrenkopf and Negerkuss ARE NOT racist names for chocolate covered marshmallows, yes that means "Moor's Head" and "Negro's Kiss" but they're NOT racist names; stop trying to destroy tradition by getting them renamed!!!

Shit, that's like reading about the racist ass city names in America. Shit like "Dead N**** Hollow, TN", "N**** Foot, VA", and "A.N.N.A, IL"

[CW: Turbo Racism]

https://www.theroot.com/dead-negro-and-other-towns-with-unbelievable-racist-nam-1851447014

https://www.vice.com/en/article/theres-hundreds-of-racist-place-names-across-the-us-heres-why-its-hard-to-change-them/

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I had no idea that's where the name comes from. Knowing it now I feel like reclaiming it somehow. It's a great drink and having one named after you is cool af. I wonder if there is a way to decouple it from its colonialist bs

[–] abc@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i don't think there's a great way to decouple it from the colonialist origins, given the reason the drink is named lumumba is because it is 'chocolate with a shot (of rum)' and you know...Lumumba was an African who was shot to death...but who knows maybe he's looking on from the great beyond and going "yeah i would've named the drink that myself. probably would be better to name something else after him that isn't based in racism

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago