this post was submitted on 09 Dec 2024
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He's already had his folk hero status revoked
Hexbear is going to be really funny for the next couple of weeks as the inevitable struggle session is going to be lit.
It's so fucking funny that eveyrone on this site would essentially dog pile this dude's tweets if they were posted here without a source, and anyone defending them would be insta-banned for "defending fascism". Ironically instead of contending with the messiness of the world in terms of how to fix it, Hexbear will now contend with the messiness of the world in terms of it's vibes and aesthetics.
It also shows how many of y'all actually read theory. I didn't start reading his tweets until they were posted individually, and I was like "oh he's a Yarvin guy" immediately. It's super funny that this site is so concerned with sea-lioning literally falls for one of the biggest "we gotta kill em all because only we truly care" type sea-lioning arguments from the people on the right most deserving of a wedgie for rubbing their two brain cells together. (Yes there are people more pathetic than Ben Shapiro out there, at least Ben Shapiro secures the bag)
Y'all gonna become fascists simply by watching S. Craig Zahler movies. Such incredible and cowardly ideological weakness from those mostly concerned with aesthetic presentations of ideology and it makes them no better than libs.
Just calling a spade a spade. The guy is right wing and I find that funny because it was imo the most likely outcome.
It seems like you’re advocating for a sort of “live and let live” approach to organizing, which I understand when it’s about MLs tolerating anarchists and vice versa. But willfully ignoring fascist tendencies, well, ends up with fascists on your side. Which is just as toxic as the things you’re worried about.
The best path is to be brutally, honestly aware about each and every potential ally and make an assessment from the facts of that person and the situation you’re in. There is no absolute way about it and every path has traps.
Yeah except I'm not. If I was to fully describe the irony that is happening here it is this: "Hexbear culture is now seemingly tolerating if not out and out celebrating a fascist for something he's done, but will not tolerate a fascist in order to get them to do something they would find worthy of celebration."
For a culture that says "there can be no compromise with fascists", they have certainly found one, and they refuse to not only admit it, but they will continue to refuse the idea whose logical ends they are effectively cheering on.
Likewise the online inter ML/anarchist hatred is mostly based on aesthetics and vibes. That makes the issue of online ML/anarchist collaboration effectively the same problem as MLs cheering on a fascist for doing something they like, while pretending that they'll be able to hang every fascist in the US all 320M of them.
I think I misinterpreted your original comment but I completely agree with your conclusion,
Same
Get they asses.
I think I agree with you but what do you think is the correct course of action here?