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[โ€“] Judge_Juche@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

All of the factors which contributed to how deadly the fire at Lahaina ended up being were known years in advance, like the buildup of invasive grasses, poor planning and training, and the loss of agricultural land around the town which acted as fire breaks. In fact there had been several bills to improve wildfire resilience introduced in the Hawaii legislature in the last 5 years which ended up being voted down, often due to cost.

Like this fire killed several hundred people, that is unheard of, you have to go back to the early 1900s for wildfires that deadly. That's becuase we know how to slow wildfires when they get close to towns and how to effectively evacuate people. The fact that the Lahaina evacuation was so chaotic and that the fire could spread so quickly into town speaks to profound neglect by all levels of government.

[โ€“] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

also if Hawaii was still for Hawaiians they would be stewarding their lands better, presumably, like they did for the prior tens of thousands of years before hwhitie showed up, just as was the case with North American forests