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[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 54 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I forget where the quote is from, maybe Jakarta Method? But it talks about how reactionary types view freedom as "the right of powerful men to do as they please, even to hurt others."

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 8 points 17 hours ago

Not the quote you're thinking of, but Lenin said something similar:

Freedom in capitalist society always remains about the same as it was in ancient Greek republics: Freedom for slave owners.

[–] BanSwitch2Buyers@hexbear.net 28 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I've heard someone on here or left-twittersphere say reactionaries view the law as a constraining of others but a freeing of themselves, which overlaps with your quote. I definitely think there's something to it.

[–] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 12 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Domenico Losurdo really explores this contradiction in Liberalism: A Counter-history. All the big liberal thinkers in the 18th and 19th century loved to preach about “freedom” and “liberty” and whatnot, while defending the necessity of chattel slavery.
Really interesting read, would highly recommend.

[–] BanSwitch2Buyers@hexbear.net 5 points 17 hours ago

I just finished reading his Stalin book so maybe I'll read that one soon.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 25 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Wilhoit’s Law:

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

-Frank Wilhoit (the composer, not the Ameican history scholar)

^(^No ^seriously ^please ^stop ^misattributing ^this ^quote ^to ^the ^wrong ^Frank ^Wilhoit. ^I ^know ^it's ^odd ^that ^a ^musician ^and ^not ^a ^historian ^came ^up ^with ^such ^an ^apt ^description)

[–] miz@hexbear.net 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

^superscript^ ^requires^ ^a^ ^caret^ ^on^ ^both^ ^ends^ ^of^ ^a^ ^word^

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Oh weird. It's not showing up like that in the app I'm using. 🤔

[–] miz@hexbear.net 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

hmm, very interesting... which app is it, for any future coder that investigates

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 2 points 15 hours ago

Sync. The dev abandoned it a long time ago, but it still works and has the ability to switch accounts with the push of a button or browse anonymously. This was more useful when Bureaucrat was still operational.

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 12 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Well yeah, that’s Barry Obama’s step dad; who shows up in Jakarta Method.