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[-] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 79 points 1 year ago

BEING A MINORITY DOESN'T MAKE YOU A DECENT PERSON OR MAKE YOU MAGICALLY UNDERSTAND SOCIAL JUSTICE. LOG OFF AND READ A BOOK!

More neurodivergent queer CIA ghouls does not a liberated society make.

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[-] Tastysnack@hexbear.net 66 points 1 year ago

Neurotypical under capitalism just means passive wage slave.

Western psychology try not to undermine it's own field of study by ignoring capitalisms impact on people's mental health challenge: impossible

[-] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago

I mean, Freud's greatest intervention was recognizing that "normative" is constructed and contingent on social norms (his "primitive society" being so depraved especially helps us see it). Even though dude was entirely wrong about everything biological, etc, you'd think the field would recognize what he got right and build on it, instead of, ironically, repressing its greatest potential.

[-] Tastysnack@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

Yeah I remember learning about some of his theories and everyone saying he was a complete hack but as you say, he got stuff right, it's just the stuff he got right undermines our current system so is ignored and the stuff he got wrong overshadows it OR props up the status quo and people cherry pick it.

[-] Sasuke@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

i think the problem with freud is that, outside of some lit studies, he isn't really approached from a sociocultural perspective anymore. all of his most prominent theories, at least in pop culture, has been tossed into this grotesque wellness machine where they're at best treated as tools to achieve personal happiness, and at worst used to erase the web of social relations and material conditions that forms an individual

[-] Tastysnack@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Omg wellness training noooooo don't bring it up it burns 😫

[-] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

As a trans person stuck in a highly transmed, gatekeepy and pathologizing healthcare system, i've been through my share of psychotherapists (not really, i will have to go through at least two more ffs) and Freudians are the fucking worst. I mean, that's not entirely correct, Jungians appear to be the same but nazi and i'm glad i never had a run-in with one of those freaks, but jfc do Freudians make my skin crawl. And when i ask around in local trans groups, hey, what's your experience with this and that guy, yeah, the psychoanalytically oriented ones aren't the ones any of us trust.

I get it, he's got some nice ideas when he's not doing his straight ass pulls and blatant mysogyny, he's also an excellent prose writer and the charm of his Vienesse German even carries over into the English translations, i can give him credit for a lot of things. A lot of things outside of psychology. Yes, he was right about the constructedness of social norms, but you do not need Freud for that, any psychologist with the tiniest bit of background in leftist acedemia understands that part already, it's been kind of at the center of all humanities for the last decades. Psychology doesn't need more Freud, it needs more intersectional anticapitalism to understand that some people just have entirely different experiences than those within the normative framework that defines the illusion of normalcy in our system. And i know a psychologist who does that, and she's got nothing to do with Freud, she just does the usual evidence-based cognitive behavorial therapy slop, but she's read enough feminist theory and queer theory and anti-racist theory to understand where her biases lie and how to treat people correctly when their very existence is at odds with how society is "supposed" to work, and i've never seen anything like that from a Freudian, even though there's ofc Freudian leftists. But even those appear to be permanently stuck with overvaluing and centering the experience and the intellectual idiosyncrasies of a single cishet dude that are just super fucking misleading about how the human mind works, that perpetuate a very lopsided and hierarchical doctor-patient relation and that mostly work on making the wildest assumptions about your patients and always one-upping and controlling them.

[-] Self_Hating_Moid@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

My special interest is bombing brown people

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