Liberalism discussed here is economic liberalism, i.e. this isn't chuds criticizing social liberalism (i.e. "the gays" reactionary ideology) but instead the behavior of liberal capitalist states to steadily privatize any and all former public goods and services to the detriment of the public (i.e. working class). Both democrats and republicans for instance are believers in economic liberalism with republicans for instance heavily focused upon privatization of the postal service for example.

[–] Coldus12@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Huh the more you know. I didnt understand hexbear users' points mainly because i confused social liberalism with economic liberalism and didnt get how you could support (social) liberal views, but still "bash" those who supported them. Going to read up on economic liberalism.

[–] Bloobish@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

A big thing too is that the US is very bad at defending social liberties, especially as of now with the rollback of a lot of previous freedoms (bodily autonomy by way of abortion as well as the related health information protections that were an aspect of Roe vs Wade, likely rollbacks against marriage equality coming, equality to access of housing via renting being piss poor in many states, protections for unfair termination of your job being shit in work at will states). The US preaches the idea of being a philosophically liberal (in the aspect of allowing people self determination away from the state as well as determination of the government by way of voting), yet this is disproven with the continued invasion into government spaces via various church groups and capitalist interests. This is saying nothing to how material conditions are such a core factor in the outcomes of people's lives and health (necropolitics is a interesting field to read up on which was started by many post colonial country intellectuals such as Achille Mbembe).

Hell we haven't even touched on gerrymandering, the electoral college, or mass media campaigning. There's a reason why the saying "scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds" is popular among the leftist sphere because the only liberalism that exists within the US is by permission of the state and capital because it benefits them and anything that could materially benefit the people is shunned (remember how angry the political class became giving out stimulus checks?)