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[-] Tastysnack@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What they mean is that the Taiwanese government isn't just pushing for independence like the uwu BBC and guardian would like you to believe but full control and ownership of the entire mainland harking back to the nationalist belief in their government that they ARE the real China despite being the ultimate sore losers about it.

It complicated but one thing you can be sure is that the western narrative on it is almost all spin, propaganda and manufactured consent because demonising China and propping up Taiwan is Americas strategy for either sanctioning China so American doesn't lose its economic clout and so that if that fails they can manufacture consent for an armed conflict to accomplish the same ends.

I mean the western MSM are already banging the drums of war at america and NATOs behest and a war with China is abjectly bad for this planet but like American politicians give a shit about that.

[-] PreachHard@mander.xyz 10 points 1 year ago

Thanks for explaining it to me a lot more clearly, you have any good resources to read into this about? Any authors you'd recommend? This is a massive blind spot in my political knowledge.

[-] AmarkuntheGatherer@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago

There's no clear territorial definition of what constitutes the area of the ROC in their constitution. It mostly refers to a mainland, defined as the areas controlled by Chinese Communists.

Provisional Constitution Of The Republic Of China (1931) has one though, which is what's alluded to in the constitution:

ARTICLE 1. The territory of the Republic of China consists of the various provinces and Mongolia and Tibet.

Note that this refers to the provinces as they were considered in 1931, which means it includes all the concessions by PRC to Russia, Vietnam etc.

We can reach the same conclusion by understanding that the ROC holds itself as the sole inheritor of Qing, thereby all its lands. These lands are what they use for the outline of China, such as in the emblem of their marine corps.

I will say in parting that this doesn't mean the people of Taiwan island necessarily consider their government to be the rightful governors of PRC lands, let alone the rest of these claims. They have no intention or desire to invade Mongolia. Indeed, they may not have in 1947, and therefore didn't make any mentions of Mongolia or areas ceded by CPC. Regardless, successive governments have made no attempts to clarify this with new legislation.

[-] Tastysnack@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Nope not of the top of my head lmao ๐Ÿ™ƒ

Like there's loads but honestly i wouldn't know what to recommend, I'm kinda hoping someone else can fill in the blanks in my own understanding.

I SAID I WAS HOPING ANOTHER HEXBEAR WOULD HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD OR SOME RESOURCES!!

I bet lemmygrad has them on tap if you wanted to ask them as well tbh.

[-] PreachHard@mander.xyz 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks a billion, probably more than a hint I should do the leg work lol. I'll edit in anything I find interesting!

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