These bigoted, ignorant scum will never listen to anything. They are politically illiterate infants with an allergic reaction to reading.
They have ruined a safe space cultivated and cared for, they have turned this place into a new reddit.
I had a dude in my private messages going on about how I was both mutilating myself and other children. Many more people on hexbear have had similar experiences, with these worthless ignorant scum popping in to deliver the political equivalent of a giant shit.
As your friends, comrades, and people you say you defend get slurred at, dehumanized, and harassed please ask yourself:
Is it worth it?
I have the answer, I know you know it as well:
No its not
I used to think otherwise
I was a fool
its not worth a few laughs
even if you dunk all you want, that doesn't take away the knife those people put in our backs.
These bigots, fascists, and NATO liberals are as worthless offline as they are here, why should we give them any attention. They are worth less than the dirt beneath our fingernails. Why should we poison ourselves with their influence? We don't make any room for them offline, why should we not online?
And really
How many essays have your written?
How many sources have you combed through?
How many times have you explained the most basic facts of reality?
How many attempts at good faith?
Only for them to dismiss it in their stupidity. They don't read it, they just crumble and divert back to the programming these little shits trust in more than God.
For every time there is a good faith user, there are a dozen scumbag fascists. And most of the time, the "good faith one" just reverts back to their old shit.
Do you really think losing any member of the hexbear or lemmygrad community, longtime members or not, is worth a few good dunks?
I don't believe a small chance of gaining a new user is worth alienating an entire section of the community. The vast majority of those idiots are lost causes. If they are interested, the can just make an account and ask in good faith.
Is posting a meme to "own the liberals" worth your comrades getting more trauma from bigots harassing them?
No its not.
you've had your laugh, but it should end
Ban them all, SJW, lemm.ee, lemmy, the programmer nazi edglords. Keep Lemmygrad.
Defederate from those communities. We shouldn't sacrifice our own for more clicks. For having to subject ourselves to the opinions of people thoroughly brainwashed? We aren't reddit. We came here to get away from that. I'm sick of this. We are sick of this.
End it now
I don't wanna defed, but I'm confused when other instances say we're doing something entirely annoying or obnoxious. The only thing I notice is that we're a lot more active.
Do they not like seeing swear words or what? I've seen lot of claims we go off topic as well. I don't really understand it. I think there might be some kind of generational gaps, because many of the other users are perhaps more middle aged, as in aged 55 and older. One user said we're like a bunch of obnoxious kids having a rave party inside a library. Another said we're like maladjusted 5 year olds on meth.
I find my hexbearians to be generally chill and well-adjusted, so what gives?
It is like having an extended family bbq and having your racist uncle be like: "You are so mean for calling me out on my racism and transphobia! Typically people don't get loud at me and say 'No!' to me, so you must be a bad person!"
They prefer the negative peace to a positive peace.
It's reddit brain. Having a substantive conversation is hard -- you might have to read some things, or be a little charitable to what the other person is trying to say, or navigate someone getting a little upset over an important topic. It's much easier to call the mods and complain, and if you're sufficiently motivated you can spin almost anything as off topic, insufficiently civil, something other than what the other person was actually trying to say, etc. Then you dig in on that shit because it feels good to be "right" and piss the other person off, but you're not trolling.
I've seen a few instances where IMO the hexbear user was genuinely being a bit obnoxious to other lemmy users, but those were outliers, like maybe 1% of posts, so the bad faith lemmy users fixate on these few posts probably to make their point.