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[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 122 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

i have a deep and irrational hatred for the fact that some people call computer programs "apps" now of days

[–] alexandra_kollontai@hexbear.net 66 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Some people"? The operating systems themselves call them apps now.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And it's really not that unreasonable. What the user thinks of as an app could be more than 1 program. It makes sense to put an abstraction between users and programs because lots of sophisticated software use separate programs that the end user doesn't care about, just the whole.

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't think anyone's saying we should only refer to each individual executable file. Just that 'apps' arbitrarily replaced the word 'program' with absolutely no change in definition to make it sound New and Marketable tm.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

What I call an app is a little thing I eat before a big thing.

[–] RION@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I regret to inform you it's joever

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

An application program is a computer program designed to carry out a specific task

A howitzer is a projectile weapon designed to fire a specific projectile

Rejoice, your paint guns are now all howitzers!

[–] RION@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thankfully the dictionaries get a little more specific. I do want an artillery capable paint gun though, that sounds rad

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I presented the above as a joke and I had faith that the definition of a howitzer wasn't that vague to begin with. angery

[–] RION@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

I used to think howitzer was a specific model or even brand of artillery piece, like the Gucci bag of artillery.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

The Task Manager in Windows always had an "Applications" tab and a "Processes" tab, going back to Windows 98 at least. "Programs" was always too broad and restricted to being colloquial; the specific word was either application or executable.

What's worth ranting about is whether people have stopped understanding "App" as short for something.

[–] Strayce@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The l33t w4r3z d00dz were calling applications 'appz' since at least the '90s. Then there was that brief period where Apple tried to claim "app store" was short for "apple store" so no one else could say it..

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Actually the proper nomenclature of the time was 'warez'.

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

not enough ascii in this comment tbh

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

markdown killed the ascii star

[–] Strayce@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, it's a regional dialect.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

“What region?”

“…Usenet.”

“I…RC.”

[–] stewie3128@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

That is our word and you have no right to use it

When I was a kid, I thought it was pronounced WHERE-AZ.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Then there was that brief period where Apple tried to claim "app store" was short for "apple store" so no one else could say it..

I'm only surprised they didn't succeed.

It's software, and I will not change.

[–] DayOfDoom@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Same, but for appetizers as well.

[–] stilgar@infosec.pub 17 points 1 year ago

"Some people" includes almost all devs who actually make the ~apps~ ~applications~ programs though.

Many of the projects I work on use app to refer to the main object or entrypoint.

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago