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It’s quite remarkable and disturbing how often I see conversations with Zionists and Israel supporters devolve into this
(hexbear.net)
“Palestinians have tried everything. Israel keeps trying to ethnically cleanse them” “They haven’t but I wish they did”
I’m too tired to try to deeply psychoanalyze this or whatever but it feels like they deep down understand their position relies on defense of Empire and presupposition of their monopoly of violence against rowdy upstarts, and when backed into a corner they start running their mouths without the usual window dressing.
Don't threaten me with a good time!
In seriousness, it will really be bad for the Palestinians but I don't think Israel is going to come out of its "special military operation" feeling any less humiliated than in 2006.
Agree. Urban warfare is notoriously casualty intensive and advantages in training and equipment tend to equalize when both sides can reach out and hit the other with a shovel.
The IDF has repeatedly shown that the one thing it can't tolerate is take high casualties and while the IDF might be motivated by revenge, the Palestinians are fighting for their lives.
Funny you say that. A common pop history trope in regards to Israeli military history (and national myth in general) is how Israel was able to defeat multiple Arab states at once since 1948 because it was a plucky underdog fighting for its survival. Having a core of trained veterans up against former colonial police which Arab armies were based around (which they actually outnumbered at points), plus support by the west is almost always glossed over. Plus it contains the implication that Diaspora Jews were too weak-willed to fight against European fascists.
So a plucky underdog with no real international support whatsoever using fucking rockets and hang gliders managing to humiliate an incredibly well-armed barracks state through protracted warfare goes above and beyond just ironic.